Ann Coulter Receives Asskicking from Elizabeth Edwards

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

I think this is the bottom line of it all:

You’re asking them to participate in a dialogue that is based on hatefulness and ugliness instead of on the issues, and I don’t think that’s serving them or this country very well.

Both democrats and republicans should recognize that all the focus on personal issues is just driving people away from the electoral process. Coming here from a country that is rife with the politics of personal attacks, I really thought Americans were more politically mature. Guess I was wrong about that.

That's it exactly!

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

I don't think she made any valid point at all - her comments are intended I think to appeal the most mean-spirited of partisan hacks.

I'm not commenting on Edwards here either (not knowing that much about the man or his wife)

I love the way you put the disclaimer on Edwards (not knowing them) But when you write about ppl you dislike you are the utmost authority.

I'm writing about what I saw. A total lack of human compassion when confronted over mean-spirited personal attacks.

If you want to defend someone who has no moral conscience about appropriate social behaviour - go right ahead.

Why didnt you dig up a mean spirited comment from Edwards to make your point?

After days of indecision, Edwards said in a statement last week that he was "personally offended" by the writing of Marcotte and a second blogger, Melissa McEwan, but that he was keeping them on in the interest of giving everyone "a fair shake." The statement was coupled with carefully worded apologies from the two women toward anyone who may have been offended.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7021201632.html

I just googled that, and nothing but Ann Coulter's remarks came up. Can you find something that EE said that was as nasty and vile as what Coulter said?

I dont think we should split this hair to thin after all, they probably discuss these issues as a couple. If they didnt, she surely heard about it. By not getting rid of them immediately shows that she is condoning it.

How is that the same as someone who has made a direct, explicit, mean-spirited personal attack?

Erekose, your smarter than that? You understand the point I am trying to make. If you disagree thats fine. The chip on your shoulder towards me is obviously effecting your comments. As usual.

For all this talk of moral relativism you seem intent on engaging in it yourself. The question in case you missed it:

Do you think that personal attacks are a legitimate form of political dialog - especially when they relate to the personal tragedies of people whom you disagree with for other reasons?

Personal attacks are part of politics and some parts of everyday life, A personal attack can be interpreted many different ways cbviously, look at the debate here. It really doesnt matter if I like them or not, they are gonna happen. You should be more realistic.

[bostonparis 0]

Personal attacks are part of politics and some parts of everyday life, A personal attack can be interpreted many different ways cbviously, look at the debate here. It really doesnt matter if I like them or not, they are gonna happen. You should be more realistic.

So you agree with Ann Coulter's remarks about their dead child? I find that VERY hard to believe. I find it hard to believe that most anyone would agree that she was fair and correct making any such comment.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

Personal attacks are part of politics and some parts of everyday life, A personal attack can be interpreted many different ways cbviously, look at the debate here. It really doesnt matter if I like them or not, they are gonna happen. You should be more realistic.

So you agree with Ann Coulter's remarks about their dead child? I find that VERY hard to believe. I find it hard to believe that most anyone would agree that she was fair and correct making any such comment.

Why are you trying to categorize what I said as agreeing with her, GEEZ! What the Edwards campaign did with the catholics was equally as bad to what coulter said! Of course you put your emphasis on Coulter again. Nothing in my above post says anything remotely about agreeing with a dead baby remark! Your seeing things that just arent there. As much as you might want that to be what I think. It isnt!

[bostonparis 0]

Personal attacks are part of politics and some parts of everyday life, A personal attack can be interpreted many different ways cbviously, look at the debate here. It really doesnt matter if I like them or not, they are gonna happen. You should be more realistic.

So you agree with Ann Coulter's remarks about their dead child? I find that VERY hard to believe. I find it hard to believe that most anyone would agree that she was fair and correct making any such comment.

Why are you trying to categorize what I said as agreeing with her, GEEZ! What the Edwards campaign did with the catholics was equally as bad to what coulter said! Of course you put your emphasis on Coulter again. Nothing in my above post says anything remotely about agreeing with a dead baby remark! Your seeing things that just arent there. As much as you might want that to be what I think. It isnt!

Relax, relax, I'm asking a question because I don't see an answer. And I don't see anything that EE said that is even half as offensive and vile as someone, anyone, talking about their dead child the way Coulter did. Even if something as tragic as a child dying at 16 DID happen to Coulter (or any Republican challenger of the Edwards'). Can you? Really?

[HAL 9000 96]

MSNBC clearly sand bagged Ann Coulter with the phone call from Elizabeth Edwards. Was this a news broadcast or a biased reality TV show?

A while ago on Bill Maher’s show Democratic Rep Barney Frank quoted bloggers from the HuffingtonPost Web log saying the bomb was wasted when it missed Cheney. Quoting the blog, Bill Maher said, "I have zero doubt that if ####### Cheney was not in power, people wouldn’t be dying needlessly tomorrow." Asked by Frank if Maher believed that sentiment, the host replied, "I’m just saying if he did die, other people, more people would live. That’s a fact."

Recently Ann Coulter said "If I'm going to say anything about John Edwards in the future, I'll just wish he had been killed in a terrorist assassination plot,", riffing on Maher's comment during his HBO show in which he said "people wouldn't be dying needlessly" if Cheney had been killed during an insurgent attack that happened while he was in Afghanistan.

From John Edwards website "Can you help us raise $100,000 in "Coulter Cash" this week to keep this campaign charging ahead and fight back against the politics of bigotry?"

To recap, let someone say in seriousness that the VP of the US should have been killed and that is OK. Let someone make a joking reference against a Presidential Candidate and that’s not OK. Let the Presidential Candidate raise money off the same person they are condemning and that’s OK. Now I get it – clear as mud…

The Far Left can say anything they want and the Far Right can not. Ridiculous. Let them say what they want and chose to listen or not to listen. Welcome to America.

Don't really ever post here... but if this is an America where this "apparent" leftward lean is so "apparently" prevalent... then I wonder how the hell are people so far out there to the Right in power.

People do vote.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Personal attacks are part of politics and some parts of everyday life, A personal attack can be interpreted many different ways cbviously, look at the debate here. It really doesnt matter if I like them or not, they are gonna happen. You should be more realistic.

So you agree with Ann Coulter's remarks about their dead child? I find that VERY hard to believe. I find it hard to believe that most anyone would agree that she was fair and correct making any such comment.

Why are you trying to categorize what I said as agreeing with her, GEEZ! What the Edwards campaign did with the catholics was equally as bad to what coulter said! Of course you put your emphasis on Coulter again. Nothing in my above post says anything remotely about agreeing with a dead baby remark! Your seeing things that just arent there. As much as you might want that to be what I think. It isnt!

Relax, relax, I'm asking a question because I don't see an answer. And I don't see anything that EE said that is even half as offensive and vile as someone, anyone, talking about their dead child the way Coulter did. Even if something as tragic as a child dying at 16 DID happen to Coulter (or any Republican challenger of the Edwards'). Can you? Really?

Agreed. The comments in defence of this seem to amount "this is justifiable, because X,Y and Z have done it". I guess it goes to show that The point is also that noone can leave aside partisan politics to unilaterally condemn this sort of behaviour.

What comes across in the video is that AC sees nothing wrong with using personal slurs as a valid means of expression to respond to people she doesn't agree with politically, or separate a wife and mother from her association to a political candidate. IMO AC doesn't appear to be capable of recognisable human emotion or empathy.

[bostonparis 0]

Among the McEwan posts that Donohue listed was one she posted on Feb. 21, 2006, on her site, Shakespeare's Sister. She questioned what religious conservatives don't understand about "keeping your noses out of our britches, our beds and our families?"

This is what I found about the Edwards' and Catholic comments. I guess McEwan works for the Edwards'? Anyways, this was what I found, and I don't see anything that is remotely comparable to the Coulter comment.

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

Its a sad state of affairs when the best example that can be offered to apparently justify AC's deplorable comments isn't even a quote of something said by the Edwards, but rather someone who happened to work for them at one time. Not quite the same - and certainly from what's been quoted so far, that person has said anything on a par to what AC did...

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

A personal attack is a personal attack! To what degree? Thats hair splitting to slant your argument to make your point!

You call me an #######! I call you an ####### hole bastage. Lets split this and see who is the better person? Neither, there equal.

Edited June 28, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[Fuzzness 2]

Why do people even pay attention to her? After all this is the woman who said Canada is "lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent"

[Trumplestiltskin 5,791]

A personal attack is a personal attack! To what degree? Thats hair splitting to slant your argument to make your point!

You call me an #######! I call you an ####### hole bastage. Lets split this and see who is the better person? Neither, there equal.

Sure. But to use your example - you would be blaming me for something that someone else said.

Do you think AC did herself justice by refusing to address the point made by Elizabeth Edwards (which at least insofar as I saw it included no personal attacks of any kind)?

What would she have lost in showing a little humanity, instead of turning the whole thing into a cynical exercise in "she's trying to shut me up". All she said was that making derogatory personal comments in lieu of actual, tangible criticisms is beneath contempt.

[KarenCee 3]

IMHO, unless you have experienced the loss of a child it's hard to understand the depths of grief and pain a parent goes through. Not excusing her b!tchy comment at all (which seems to be part of the forerfront of this thread), I just hope she never has to experience such a loss. That's the part of her tirade I found highly uncouth and definitely beneath basic humanity.

Come to think of it, I rather doubt she will since she's such a crass uncouth woman to begin with.

[Pinocchio Liberal 268]

A personal attack is a personal attack! To what degree? Thats hair splitting to slant your argument to make your point!

You call me an #######! I call you an ####### hole bastage. Lets split this and see who is the better person? Neither, there equal.

Sure. But to use your example - you would be blaming me for something that someone else said.

Do you think AC did herself justice by refusing to address the point made by Elizabeth Edwards (which at least insofar as I saw it included no personal attacks of any kind)?

What would she have lost in showing a little humanity, instead of turning the whole thing into a cynical exercise in "she's trying to shut me up". All she said was that making derogatory personal comments in lieu of actual, tangible criticisms is beneath contempt.

There is a difference between the world the way it is in reality and the world that you would like it to be.

Hey wheres the Rosie O'donnell thread Im in the wrong one? Ahhh isnt this a darling picture?

Edited June 28, 2007 by CarolsMarc

[bostonparis 0]

Is that the Edwards' kid?