‘I just want to find 11,780 votes’: In extraordinary hour-long call, Trump pressures Georgia secretary of state to recalculate the vote in his favor

[laylalex 7,300]

31 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Why two more years?  A lot of folks are probably already shooting those out.  Heck, between Trump, and The Squad, the De Beers group will be in trouble.

Because the full-faceted Trump diamond took 4 years to form. AOC needs another 2 years because math.

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3 hours ago, laylalex said:

It's called an autogolpe.

Thanks, I have been holding out for 5 years to finish that crossword puzzle and you had the answer.

 

 

The Journal ed board weighs in.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/301458-billy-bush-officially-leaves-nbc-amid-trump-tape-fallout%3famp

 

 

The Wall Street Journal editorial board on Sunday issued a scathing op-ed condemning the Republican “stunt” to contest President-elect Joe Biden's Electoral College victory, warning the move could cause lasting damage to the country and party.

“The Electoral College gambit won’t work this week because House Democrats won’t go along, but imagine if Republicans ran the House and did. Eighty-one million Americans who voted for Mr. Biden would be disenfranchised by an insider scheme. The political response would be volcanic, and understandably so,” the editors wrote.

 

The Journal's editorial board deemed the Republican attempt “unconstitutional,” saying the law does not give Congress “the ability to second-guess” the decision from state electors. 

“In stretching this law for a partisan exercise, Republicans are also giving Democrats more ammunition to use in their campaign to overturn the Electoral College in favor of a direct popular vote,” it wrote. “This is the fire Republicans are playing with, no matter their political calculation.”

The board noted that two of the Republicans leading the charge, Sen. Josh Hawley (Mo.) and Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas), are seen as potential 2024 presidential candidates.

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3 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

“The Electoral College gambit won’t work this week because House Democrats won’t go along, but imagine if Republicans ran the House and did. Eighty-one million Americans who voted for Mr. Biden would be disenfranchised by an insider scheme. The political response would be volcanic, and understandably so,” the editors wrote.

*This* is why we have our pearls in a wad as we clutch our panties. We've always known American democracy is fragile, and but for one control that all Americans were lucky to have in place, American democracy would have failed.

 

There are two penalties that can be imposed on an impeached president: removal from office, and prevention from every holding a federal office in the future. I'm starting to come around to the idea that another impeachment needs to be held to impose the latter penalty.

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U.S. Attorney for North Georgia abruptly resigns due to ‘unforeseen circumstances

 

https://www.ajc.com/news/breaking-us-attorney-for-north-georgia-resigns-effective-immediately/UDJNKRKKLRFILC4NC5QKWEUKXM/

 

 

Hmmmm..

[Dashinka 24,786]

11 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

and that is a great point. Trump has lost it if he think he could overturn 4 states. Maybe there was some pockets of funny business but not enough to get him the votes he needs. Conservatives courts have ruled, republican politicians have ruled. Now it's just embarrassing and hurting republican's everywhere 

 

Georgia as I predicted a month ago will turn blue tomorrow. Trump and Leader Mitch helped do that. Warnock is a shoe in. Perdue has a very slim chance

Actually not blue, but socialist red.  We will find out if the Dems are ready to implode the country as they are leaning that way.  As to what Trump is doing, he is just playing the ref like coaches do all the time in sports and showing that he will not give up the fight.

Edited January 5, 2021 by Dashinka

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Actually not blue, but socialist red.  We will find out if the Dems are ready to implode the country as they are leaning that way.  As to what Trump is doing, he is just playing the ref like coaches do all the time in sports and showing that he will not give up the fight.

I really don't think it will be fairly soon for all of this to happen but several decades in fact. The reason for that thinking is that the changes are happening bit by bit not all at once. Because they know if they do to much to soon then a fight will be on their hands. So the best way for them to change the country and mold it in to their way of thinking is through incrementalism. 

 

For example there are already people here in country that hate everything that this country stands for and how it supposedly is nothing but a racist police state. All the while they will not move anywhere else because they know that that kind of BS does not fly in other countries. Where before they were all about "Defund the Police" but now in the last couple of weeks there is video of Antifa/BLM being shielded and protected by the police.  

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1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I really don't think it will be fairly soon for all of this to happen but several decades in fact. The reason for that thinking is that the changes are happening bit by bit not all at once. Because they know if they do to much to soon then a fight will be on their hands. So the best way for them to change the country and mold it in to their way of thinking is through incrementalism. 

 

For example there are already people here in country that hate everything that this country stands for and how it supposedly is nothing but a racist police state. All the while they will not move anywhere else because they know that that kind of BS does not fly in other countries. Where before they were all about "Defund the Police" but now in the last couple of weeks there is video of Antifa/BLM being shielded and protected by the police.  

It's always they "hate everything that this country stands for" when it's the other side protesting. When it's your side protesting, they're patriots. You should try to recognize and overcome that bias.

 

The "America, love it or leave it" argument is the de facto example of a false dilemma fallacy. (ergo decedo)

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14 minutes ago, moxy said:

It's always they "hate everything that this country stands for" when it's the other side protesting. When it's your side protesting, they're patriots. You should try to recognize and overcome that bias.

 

The "America, love it or leave it" argument is the de facto example of a false dilemma fallacy. (ergo decedo)

So Antifa loves this country? They are the ones talking about how we need to do away with it all

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1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So Antifa loves this country? They are the ones talking about how we need to do away with it all

I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone who has the motivation to protest on the streets, and who also literally hate this country. I expect people who actually hate the country have either found ways to emigrate, are looking for ways to emigrate, or have resigned themselves to living in a country they hate and are just getting on with their lives. Nobody who is out there marching and carrying signs hates the country.

 

People don't hate this country, they hate aspects of this country such as racism, intolerance, and police brutality. The objective isn't to destroy the country. The objective is to reform those aspects. I don't know how anyone could say a person hates their country because they're trying to end racism.

 

And to be clear, anyone who goes out there and destroys property or hurts innocents needs to be held accountable for that behavior. Most people--left, right, or center--would agree with this. Only the fringe left or right endorses destruction and harm. The vast majority of people out there just want their voices heard.

 

This idea that people you disagree with hate the country is so self-unaware. I'm surprised you would run with that. Its so fallacious.

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4 minutes ago, moxy said:

I think you would be hard pressed to find anyone who has the motivation to protest on the streets, and who also literally hate this country. I expect people who actually hate the country have either found ways to emigrate, are looking for ways to emigrate, or have resigned themselves to living in a country they hate and are just getting on with their lives. Nobody who is out there marching and carrying signs hates the country.

 

People don't hate this country, they hate aspects of this country such as racism, intolerance, and police brutality. The objective isn't to destroy the country. The objective is to reform those aspects. I don't know how anyone could say a person hates their country because they're trying to end racism.

 

And to be clear, anyone who goes out there and destroys property or hurts innocents needs to be held accountable for that behavior. Most people--left, right, or center--would agree with this. Only the fringe left or right endorses destruction and harm. The vast majority of people out there just want their voices heard.

 

This idea that people you disagree with hate the country is so self-unaware. I'm surprised you would run with that. Its so fallacious.

Quite the opposite in fact. I believe that many people protesting are doing it for good reasons to help bring light to some serious issues in the country. While actual Antifa/Black Bloc are the opposite and hate everything there is about this country and have said so repeatedly. That is why the go around vandalizing and burning businesses. They don't want to emigrate anywhere because they know that this stuff won't fly in other countries. 

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2 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Quite the opposite in fact. I believe that many people protesting are doing it for good reasons to help bring light to some serious issues in the country. While actual Antifa/Black Bloc are the opposite and hate everything there is about this country and have said so repeatedly. That is why the go around vandalizing and burning businesses. They don't want to emigrate anywhere because they know that this stuff won't fly in other countries. 

You understand all Antifa protesters don't vandalize, right? It's a fringe group of people doing it.

 

I've yet to see any Antifa actually say they hate the country. If you have sources, I'd be interested.

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4 minutes ago, moxy said:

You understand all Antifa protesters don't vandalize, right? It's a fringe group of people doing it.

 

I've yet to see any Antifa actually say they hate the country. If you have sources, I'd be interested.

When they start burning American flags that is a pretty telling sign to me

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8 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

When they start burning American flags that is a pretty telling sign to me

Flag burning may be offensive, but you don't get to assign motive.

 

I'm offended when people deface the flag, like putting black or blue stripes on it. I'm offended when Trump supporters deface the American flag by having his face plastered on them. They are literally defacing and destroying the flag. Do they hate America too?

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3 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I really don't think it will be fairly soon for all of this to happen but several decades in fact. The reason for that thinking is that the changes are happening bit by bit not all at once. Because they know if they do to much to soon then a fight will be on their hands. So the best way for them to change the country and mold it in to their way of thinking is through incrementalism. 

 

For example there are already people here in country that hate everything that this country stands for and how it supposedly is nothing but a racist police state. All the while they will not move anywhere else because they know that that kind of BS does not fly in other countries. Where before they were all about "Defund the Police" but now in the last couple of weeks there is video of Antifa/BLM being shielded and protected by the police.  

Teaching people to hate their country is just as bad as teaching them to love it. Therefore Antifa and co firebombing police stations, those funding them and giving them support should be left alone because they're no worse than people I can hyperbolize wearing the triggering red hat. Get used to the gaslighting comrade. They want to distract from the destruction and employ the moral equivalence because they are behind Antifa. Those not playing games in support have no problem opposing them. 

Edited January 5, 2021 by Burnt Reynolds

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On 1/4/2021 at 5:56 PM, laylalex said:

 

So do you plan on voting for Newsom if there is a run off?