Sen. David Perdue: Georgians should vote for me & Sen. Loeffler to stop Dems’ radical socialist agenda

[Orangesapples 1,954]

30 minutes ago, nykolos said:

It has NOTHING to do with Rights, but EVERYTHING to do with gaining power and control,  subverting the will of the people... Let me ask you; If DC and Puerto Rico added 2 more seats for Republicans instead of Democrats  do you think Democrats would be pushing for Statehood? they'd be fighting hard against and you know it, so much for "Rights". No matter how you look at it, it's CHEATING, it's all Democrats can do to win these days.. I'll answer your other question later on, too much to list.

I don't care which party they will vote for. How are you sure that Puerto Rico is going to vote for democrats? There's no guarantee for that. The thing is, the people deserve their rights and this has nothing to do with cheating. It's unjust that Puerto Rico doesn't have representation and is not considered a state when it had a referendum that confirmed that's what people want. 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 minute ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

since its about half the size of Atlanta land wise, if they really cared why not just annex it into VA or Maryland. It would be a whole lot more efficient and cost effective, but we all know that giving the people a voice has nothing to do with it

As long as VA and MD are part of the Republic they couldn't simply annex DC. They'd have to change the Constitution they are signatories of. The federal district is specifically designed *not* to be a part of any state let alone a state itself. A useful question might be why they allowed people to live in DC at all. 

 

For me, this is a perfect illustration of the problem solving industry -- find some past screw-ups or invent a problem altogether and find a way to make it worse so you can get yourself more problem solving business later from people who don't learn. 

[yuna628 9,676]

32 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

since its about half the size of Atlanta land wise, if they really cared why not just annex it into VA or Maryland. It would be a whole lot more efficient and cost effective, but we all know that giving the people a voice has nothing to do with it

Leave MD out of it. We don't want DC, we just enjoy the revenue it provides by all the federal workers that live in our surrounding filthy rich counties.

[Dashinka 24,513]

27 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Leave MD out of it. We don't want DC, we just enjoy the revenue it provides by all the federal workers that live in our surrounding filthy rich counties.

Which is why the Federal bureaucracy needs to be decentralized out of the DC area. 

[nykolos 711]

1 hour ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

As long as VA and MD are part of the Republic they couldn't simply annex DC. They'd have to change the Constitution they are signatories of. The federal district is specifically designed *not* to be a part of any state let alone a state itself. A useful question might be why they allowed people to live in DC at all. 

 

Correct, it's carved out in the Constitution,  Which is the Supreme Law of the United States, something that today's Democrat party does NOT respect or care about.  You'll only hear Democrats cite the US Constitution when their going after a Republican.

 

2 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

How are you sure that Puerto Rico is going to vote for democrats? 

Because Democrats are masters at buying votes, You give enough money to a Country who's poverty rate is higher than the US, they'll support you forever.. Democrats do the same with public sector unions, pouring Federal money, (OUR money) into States, shoring up unsustainable pension funds for public employees, Public employees who generally vote Democrat.

 

And you dodged my question, I'll ask it again; 

If DC and Puerto Rico added 2 more seats for Republicans instead of Democrats  do you think Democrats would be pushing for Statehood?

 

 

 

 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

3 minutes ago, nykolos said:

Correct, it's carved out in the Constitution,  Which is the Supreme Law of the United States, something that today's Democrat party does NOT respect or care about.  You'll only hear Democrats cite the US Constitution when their going after a Republican.

 

Because Democrats are masters at buying votes, You give enough money to a Country who's poverty rate is higher than the US, they'll support you forever.. Democrats do the same with public sector unions, pouring Federal money, (OUR money) into States, shoring up unsustainable pension funds for public employees, Public employees who generally vote Democrat.

 

And you dodged my question, I'll ask it again; 

If DC and Puerto Rico added 2 more seats for Republicans instead of Democrats  do you think Democrats would be pushing for Statehood?

 

 

 

 

Puerto Rico is not a country. Also, California subsidizes red states, so you're wrong. 

 

I did answer - I don't care. This is irrelevant.  

Edited January 4, 2021 by Orangesapples

[nykolos 711]

 

On 1/3/2021 at 1:16 PM, moxy said:

Not sure where you get "illegitimate." I absolutely hated that Trump won in 2016, but I never considered his win "illegitimate." 

Why would you? We didn't have mass mail-in ballots then, with a rejection rate that was drastically lower than in 2012... Biden will always be a illegitimate President, it will hang over him for the next 4 years.

 

 

 

 

 

[moxy 1,051]

1 minute ago, nykolos said:

Why would you? We didn't have mass mail-in ballots then, with a rejection rate that was drastically lower than in 2012... Biden will always be a illegitimate President, it will hang over him for the next 4 years.

We can't trust the voters. We can't trust the ballots. We can't trust the poll workers. We can't trust the voting machines, or the media, or the Attorney General who was appointed by the President. We can't trust the people who were in charge of election security, and we can't trust the courts, including the Supreme Court. The only person we can trust is Donald Trump.

Y'all are the very definition of a cult of personality.

[nykolos 711]

14 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

Puerto Rico is not a country. 

Commonwealth, it doesn't matter, What matter is, Democrats buy votes, they don't earn them.

 

 

Edited January 4, 2021 by nykolos

[Boiler 45,531]

20 minutes ago, nykolos said:

 

 

And you dodged my question, I'll ask it again; 

If DC and Puerto Rico added 2 more seats for Republicans instead of Democrats  do you think Democrats would be pushing for Statehood?

 

 

 

 

I know!

[nykolos 711]

2 minutes ago, moxy said:

We can't trust the voters. We can't trust the ballots. We can't trust the poll workers. We can't trust the voting machines, or the media, or the Attorney General who was appointed by the President. We can't trust the people who were in charge of election security, and we can't trust the courts, including the Supreme Court. The only person we can trust is Donald Trump.

Y'all are the very definition of a cult of personality.

I like how you left out the battleground states that intentionally lowered the signature verification threshold, resulting in millions of illegal votes to be counted.

 

[moxy 1,051]

Yeah sure why not.

 

[laylalex 7,285]

3 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

There was two separate ballot propositions in order to try and get it on the ballot. The first one was called the "6 California proposition" which meant to split the state up into 6 states. They supposedly earned enough signatures to put it on the ballot but then the detractors went after it hardcore. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/07/15/theres-a-plan-to-split-california-into-6-states-heres-what-it-might-look-like/

So then the next ballot proposition was about splitting the state up into 3 states (3 California). They earned enough signatures to put it on the ballot and it sent for "constitutional review" where it was never heard from again. 
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-split-three-states-20180612-story.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_3


Which in a state like CA you can't tell me that some representative from LA/SF knows or even cares about what happens in the IE or the Central Valley? Nope, they don't know or care about what happens in those areas at all. 

But the propositions get rejected again and again. The threshold to get on the ballot isn't that high -- about 3% of the total eligible voters. The reality is that the state's economy is interdependent on its regions. The Central Valley needs the money coming in from LA/SD/Bay Area; the urban areas need the crops from the Central Valley; Sacto, the Imperial Valley and the North need everyone's money. Yes, the state is huge and feels unmanageable sometimes. But putting it to a proposition to be voted on by voters, with the legislature to do some Underpants Gnomes magic to break it all up, is akin to Brexit, and look how SUPER that has turned out. (It hasn't.)

 

Until Padilla was appointed the other week by Newsom, California had not had a senator from Southern California in 29 years. 29! Nevermind that the bulk of the population of the state is down here. Nope, we had senators from the Bay Area who for all their good and bad points are just not plugged into what's happening here. Padilla is from a working class background and went to MIT. He's a great choice. When Feinstein finally does everyone a favor and retires (SOON PLEASE), I hope we get someone from the Central Valley, the North, or somewhere not the Bay Area. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

36 minutes ago, nykolos said:

Correct, it's carved out in the Constitution,  Which is the Supreme Law of the United States, something that today's Democrat party does NOT respect or care about.  You'll only hear Democrats cite the US Constitution when their going after a Republican.

 

Because Democrats are masters at buying votes, You give enough money to a Country who's poverty rate is higher than the US, they'll support you forever.. Democrats do the same with public sector unions, pouring Federal money, (OUR money) into States, shoring up unsustainable pension funds for public employees, Public employees who generally vote Democrat.

 

And you dodged my question, I'll ask it again; 

If DC and Puerto Rico added 2 more seats for Republicans instead of Democrats  do you think Democrats would be pushing for Statehood?

 

 

 

 

You and everybody here knows the answer to that

[Orangesapples 1,954]

45 minutes ago, nykolos said:

Commonwealth, it doesn't matter, What matter is, Democrats buy votes, they don't earn them.

 

 

US territory