Sen. David Perdue: Georgians should vote for me & Sen. Loeffler to stop Dems’ radical socialist agenda

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Did you have to hand in your MOR card as well?

considering I am undecide the day before the election, solidifies the my crown as the only true non-partisan MOR on this site if not in the whole country

[Orangesapples 1,954]

On 1/3/2021 at 12:00 AM, nykolos said:

If I could fire every politician I didn't like because of issues like sending job's overseas, (which I absolutely despise BTW) the Senate would have less than 1/2 a dozen members..  When you look at what's on the line in this Run-Off election, it's frightening,  The Democrats by their own admission want to turn Puerto Rico and Washington DC into States, doing so would add 2 new Democratic Senators, giving the Democrats the ability to push anything they want through the Senate, the Joe Manchin's of the party wouldn't be able to block it. 

 

Let's face it, Democrat politicians are out of the mainstream, that why they lose so much, they figured the only way they can win is by changing the structure,  CHEATING.. they changed the structure with Mail-in voting, overturning the will of the people in the 2020 election and now were going to have a illegitimate President for the next 4 years, (that is if he doesn't go completely senile before then) and they will expand the Supreme court, turning it into a political institution.  

 

I don't care who the candidates are really, the future of America is what I look at when I step in the voting booth. 

 

 

 

How is it cheating to give American citizens the right to statehood that they want? Please explain. 

 

Last I heard, Republicans lose the popular vote for president every time and voters in some states have disproportionate power. Tell again how what the majority of people want is not mainstream??? 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

5 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

How is it cheating to give American citizens the right to statehood that they want? Please explain. 

 

Last I heard, Republicans lose the popular vote for president every time and voters in some states have disproportionate power. Tell again how what the majority of people want is not mainstream??? 

So you want to turn a city into a state? Those two places are predominantly Democrat and will sway the Senate permanently to the Democrats

[Orangesapples 1,954]

2 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So you want to turn a city into a state? Those two places are predominantly Democrat and will sway the Senate permanently to the Democrats

Is Puerto Rico a city? 

 

Most of the country is predominantly Democrat. The only reason Republicans have power is because states with a low population have the same number of senators as big states such as California. 

Edited January 4, 2021 by Orangesapples

[moxy 1,051]

Just now, Orangesapples said:

Is Puerto Rico a city? 

And if @Cyberfx1024 is referring to Washington DC, that city is also the District of Columbia. You know that, don't be intentionally obtuse.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

6 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

Is Puerto Rico a city? 

 

Most of the country is predominantly Democrat. The only reason Republicans have power is because states with a low population have the same number of senators as big states such as California. 

So what is the issue with a state like WY having the same amount of senators as RI? If you wanted to put a coffin nail into the country you will add DC as a state

Edited January 4, 2021 by Cyberfx1024

[Orangesapples 1,954]

6 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So what is the issue with a state like WY having the same amount of senators as RI? If you wanted to put a coffin nail into the country you will add DC as a state

So what is the issue with Puerto Rico having the same number of senators as Iowa? And why refuse DC residents the right to vote for national representation? 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

Just now, Orangesapples said:

So what is the issue with Puerto Rico having the same number of senators as Iowa? And why refuse DC residents the right to vote for national representation? 

DC residents can vote for national representation as part of the popular vote. So you are ok with swinging the vote in the Senate predominantly to one side? Also why don't you go and allow states like CA to break up into multiple states based off of fair representation? There are parts of CA that have actively sought out dividing up the state in to several states but it got shelved for "constitutional review" meaning it got shelved as well. 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

5 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

DC residents can vote for national representation as part of the popular vote. So you are ok with swinging the vote in the Senate predominantly to one side? Also why don't you go and allow states like CA to break up into multiple states based off of fair representation? There are parts of CA that have actively sought out dividing up the state in to several states but it got shelved for "constitutional review" meaning it got shelved as well. 

Right now it's swung on the side of Republicans. DC has a bigger population than Wyoming, why does Wyoming get to have two senators but not DC? And what about Puerto Rico? 

 

I've lived in California for almost four years now and I've never heard of that. I've heard of people wanting secession but that's not mainstream at all. 

 

Please explain how it's cheating to give the people in DC and Puerto Rico the same right as the people in Wyoming? 

Edited January 4, 2021 by Orangesapples

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

14 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

So what is the issue with Puerto Rico having the same number of senators as Iowa? And why refuse DC residents the right to vote for national representation? 

Agreed on Puerto Rico.. and the other "territories". They are deprived meaningful representation. Unfortunately the current movement to make them (and DC) states does so specifically because they believe it benefits them politically -- it really should be something done with more consensus, and likely would've easily been done if not hijacked like everything else for partisan ends. As for DC being a state, it won't be, because it can't be, without changing the Constitution itself. If people living in DC want more representation they should move to one of the states. The federal district was not made to be a state.

Edited January 4, 2021 by Burnt Reynolds

[nykolos 711]

59 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

How is it cheating to give American citizens the right to statehood that they want? Please explain. 

 

It has NOTHING to do with Rights, but EVERYTHING to do with gaining power and control,  subverting the will of the people... Let me ask you; If DC and Puerto Rico added 2 more seats for Republicans instead of Democrats  do you think Democrats would be pushing for Statehood? they'd be fighting hard against and you know it, so much for "Rights". No matter how you look at it, it's CHEATING, it's all Democrats can do to win these days.. I'll answer your other question later on, too much to list.

Edited January 4, 2021 by nykolos

[moxy 1,051]

Sooo... you don't want PR and DC to have states rights because it's politically expedient for one party? Or you'd back statehood for PR and DC in spite of it being politically expedient? Not real sure where you're standing on this.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

37 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

Right now it's swung on the side of Republicans. DC has a bigger population than Wyoming, why does Wyoming get to have two senators but not DC? And what about Puerto Rico? 

I've lived in California for almost four years now and I've never heard of that. I've heard of people wanting secession but that's not mainstream at all. 

Please explain how it's cheating to give the people in DC and Puerto Rico the same right as the people in Wyoming? 

There was two separate ballot propositions in order to try and get it on the ballot. The first one was called the "6 California proposition" which meant to split the state up into 6 states. They supposedly earned enough signatures to put it on the ballot but then the detractors went after it hardcore. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_Californias
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2014/07/15/theres-a-plan-to-split-california-into-6-states-heres-what-it-might-look-like/

So then the next ballot proposition was about splitting the state up into 3 states (3 California). They earned enough signatures to put it on the ballot and it sent for "constitutional review" where it was never heard from again. 
https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-split-three-states-20180612-story.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cal_3


Which in a state like CA you can't tell me that some representative from LA/SF knows or even cares about what happens in the IE or the Central Valley? Nope, they don't know or care about what happens in those areas at all. 

Edited January 4, 2021 by Cyberfx1024

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

since its about half the size of Atlanta land wise, if they really cared why not just annex it into VA or Maryland. It would be a whole lot more efficient and cost effective, but we all know that giving the people a voice has nothing to do with it

[moxy 1,051]

Just now, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

since its about half the size of Atlanta land wise, if they really cared why not just annex it into VA or Maryland. It would be a whole lot more efficient and cost effective, but we all know that giving the people a voice has nothing to do with it

Do you oppose DC statehood because it would be politically expedient for one party?