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[moxy 1,051]

35 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Do you remember who started that accusation? 

Nobody does.

 

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But while the identity of the First Birther is lost to the mists of chain email, one of the first to put his name to the theory was Phil Berg, a former Pennsylvania deputy attorney general who had spent the previous years accusing President George W. Bush of complicity in the Sept. 11 attack.
 

Berg filed a complaint in federal District court on Aug. 21, 2008, that alleged, “Obama carries multiple citizenships and is ineligible to run for President of the United States. United States Constitution, Article II, Section 1.”
 

“All the efforts of supporters of legitimate citizens were for nothing because the Obama cheated his way into a fraudulent candidacy and cheated legitimately eligible natural born citizens from competing in a fair process and the supporters of their citizen choice for the nomination,” the suit claims.

 

 

https://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563?paginate=false

 

But your original point was that you'd never seen anything by Republicans to match "Not my President." Birtherism was clearly magnitudes worse than just denying the legitimacy of the person holding the office. Birtherism was vile and racist.

Edited January 3, 2021 by moxy

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

42 minutes ago, moxy said:

Nobody does.

https://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563?paginate=false

But your original point was that you'd never seen anything by Republicans to match "Not my President." Birtherism was clearly magnitudes worse than just denying the legitimacy of the person holding the office. Birtherism was vile and racist.

Conspiracy theories about Obama's religion appeared at least as early as his 2004 U.S. Senate campaign in a press release by Illinois political candidate Andy Martin,^[38] and, according to a Los Angeles Times editorial, as Internet rumors.^[39]

From the start of March 2008, rumors that Obama was born in Kenya before being flown to Hawaii were spread on conservative websites, with the suggestion that this would disqualify Obama from the presidency.^[40] In April of that year, some supporters of Hillary Clinton circulated anonymous chain emails repeating the same rumor;^[41] among them was an Iowa campaign volunteer, who was fired when the story emerged.^[42][43] These and numerous other chain e-mails during the subsequent presidential election circulated false rumors about Obama's origin, religion, and birth certificate.^[44][45]

On June 9, 2008, Jim Geraghty of the conservative website National Review Online suggested that Obama release his birth certificate.^[46][47] Geraghty wrote that releasing his birth certificate could debunk several false rumors circulating on the Internet, namely: that his middle name was originally Muhammad rather than Hussein; that his mother had originally named him "Barry" rather than "Barack"; and that Barack Obama Sr. was not his biological father, as well as the rumor that Barack Obama was not a natural-born citizen.^[47][48][49]

In August 2008, Philip J. Berg, a former member of the Democratic State Committee of Pennsylvania, brought an unsuccessful lawsuit against Obama, which alleged "that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya."^[50][51]

In October 2008, an NPR article referred to "Kenyan-born Sen. Barack Obama."^[52] Also that month, anonymous e-mails circulated claiming that the Associated Press (AP) had reported Obama was "Kenyan-Born".^[53] The claims were based on an AP story that had appeared five years earlier in a Kenyan publication, The Standard.^[53][54] The rumor-checking website Snopes.com found that the headline and lead-in sentence describing Obama as born in Kenya and misspelling his first name had been added by the Kenyan newspaper, and did not appear in the story issued by the AP or in any other contemporary newspaper that picked up the AP story.^[53][55]

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories#Origins_of_the_claims

Edited January 4, 2021 by Cyberfx1024

[moxy 1,051]

Ok cool. I concede some elements of birtherism were around as early as 2004. I think we can agree though that once Obama was president, birtherism came out of the fringe and into the mainstream. And of course Trump elevated it to new levels of insanity.

 

Your original point was that you'd never seen anything by Republicans to match "Not my President." I countered with birtherism, which you seem to agree with. 👍

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

19 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

You are talking like a commie pinko, kinna intriguing.  I am not betting the farm on both Senate races going blue, but I appreciate the moxy.

I might be de whited. Already almost got kicked out of the he man club for dare suggesting the rona wad real.

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

9 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I might be de whited. Already almost got kicked out of the he man club for dare suggesting the rona wad real.

A prophet in his own country has no honor.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 hour ago, moxy said:

Ok cool. I concede some elements of birtherism were around as early as 2004. I think we can agree though that once Obama was president, birtherism came out of the fringe and into the mainstream. And of course Trump elevated it to new levels of insanity.

 

Your original point was that you'd never seen anything by Republicans to match "Not my President." I countered with birtherism, which you seem to agree with. 👍

 

I never really agreed with birtherism at all and quite frankly I didn't like it. But you everyone shut up after he came out with the long form BC. All the while everyone keeps saying "Not my president"

[moxy 1,051]

31 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I never really agreed with birtherism at all and quite frankly I didn't like it. But you everyone shut up after he came out with the long form BC. All the while everyone keeps saying "Not my president"

Who exactly is saying "not my president"? I mean, beyond twitter trolls and rando Facebook lefties? Because seriously, if that's where you're seeing it, then just like here, people have thoughts. But it doesn't make it the official platform of the Democratic Party. It's a bumper sticker. To my knowledge no office-holding Democrats were saying it.

 

But with birtherism, you had actual office-holding Republicans endorsing it. You had Fox News BREAKING it every single night. Trump only grudgingly dropped it once he was the Republican nominee.

 

You can't compare some Prius with a "not my president" bumper sticker to the sick, racist coordinated attack that was birtherism.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

3 minutes ago, moxy said:

But with birtherism, you had actual office-holding Republicans endorsing it. You had Fox News BREAKING it every single night. Trump only grudgingly dropped it once he was the Republican nominee.

So is that like the fake "Breaking News" that CNN or MSNBC reported every single week during the Trump presidency? You know the ones that broke and created several days worth of talking points but then they ultimately faded away after a week.

[moxy 1,051]

1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So is that like the fake "Breaking News" that CNN or MSNBC reported every single week during the Trump presidency? You know the ones that broke and created several days worth of talking points but then they ultimately faded away after a week.

Not what I was talking about. You said people are still talking about "not my president" and I asked who.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

Funny thing, many of the same people who suggested the people who said Trump was not their President should leave the country, are now posting Biden is not their Presi4.

[moxy 1,051]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Funny thing, many of the same people who suggested the people who said Trump was not their President should leave the country, are now posting Biden is not their Presi4.

I kinda think "x is not my President" has been going on for generations. There were probably 19th century carriages with "Madison be not mine President" pamphlets attached to the rear.

[TBoneTX 45,291]

Man, it sure happened with poor John Quincy Adams.

[Dashinka 24,499]

10 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I might be de whited. Already almost got kicked out of the he man club for dare suggesting the rona wad real.

Did you have to hand in your MOR card as well?

Edited January 4, 2021 by Dashinka

[Dashinka 24,499]

7 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Funny thing, many of the same people who suggested the people who said Trump was not their President should leave the country, are now posting Biden is not their Presi4.

Considering the President is not truly a representative of the People, I can see how people will say that.  It is not really a thing though, and we will get what we get like it or not.  The big thing that irritates me is the complete bias in the organizations that should not be, but everything is political now days.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

8 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Funny thing, many of the same people who suggested the people who said Trump was not their President should leave the country, are now posting Biden is not their Presi4.

Who are you what have you done with NB? 

But seriously I put this in the same context as the people that say they are going to leave the country if XX is elected.