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Heracles Grand Master

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Welfare recipients should be made to work any job available.

That is exactly how it works downunder my friend.

They have 2 initiatives.

  1. First of all someone who is receiving government benefits (dole) is required to look for a minimum of 16 jobs every 2 weeks. These attempts are documented in a book which needs to be handed to the department for verification.
  2. Then after about 12 months they are asked to choose whether they want to work for the dole basically doing community service, join the army or go to school.

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

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Heracles Grand Master

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The US, of course, is not Australia.

No one said it was!!! It was a case study! :wacko:

Lets just say that 'someone' seems to consistently find the US lacking when compared to Australia.

More along the lines of knowledge transfer through discussion from a different perspective.

According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

Caladan Experienced

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EBT doesn't allow you to buy DVDs, at least not with the EBT money. It's for groceries. So I'm not sure what you're seeing, but unless EBT regulations have really loosened up (they don't allow you to buy alcohol or cigarettes with food stamps), I'm calling shenanigans.

Otherwise, I think welfare-to-work programs are better, if only because it helps break some of the cycle of poverty.

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Dan J Mentor

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EBT doesn't allow you to buy DVDs, at least not with the EBT money. It's for groceries. So I'm not sure what you're seeing, but unless EBT regulations have really loosened up (they don't allow you to buy alcohol or cigarettes with food stamps), I'm calling shenanigans.

Otherwise, I think welfare-to-work programs are better, if only because it helps break some of the cycle of poverty.

Ideally thats the way it should go, but as long as we have a free market economy, we will always have poor people. In order to have people at the top or even middle, someone has to be at the bottom. We either deal with it with welfare and other programs or we go to communism (We know how well that works). I suppose we could not deal with it as well, and see crime rise even higher than it is now.

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Heracles Grand Master

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I have always said the US needs to pay better attention to it's poor. The country needs some new age programs to make these inner city or anyone else poor for that matter productive members of society. Assistance with conditions and expectations. It is actually a win win situation for everyone. At the same time the employment of illegal immigrants needs to be stopped.

EBT doesn't allow you to buy DVDs, at least not with the EBT money. It's for groceries. So I'm not sure what you're seeing, but unless EBT regulations have really loosened up (they don't allow you to buy alcohol or cigarettes with food stamps), I'm calling shenanigans.

There is a trick. If they shop at places like Walmart super centers the system usually accepts the payment

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According to the Internal Revenue Service, the 400 richest American households earned a total of $US138 billion, up from $US105 billion a year earlier. That's an average of $US345 million each, on which they paid a tax rate of just 16.6 per cent.

Caladan Experienced

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EBT doesn't allow you to buy DVDs, at least not with the EBT money. It's for groceries. So I'm not sure what you're seeing, but unless EBT regulations have really loosened up (they don't allow you to buy alcohol or cigarettes with food stamps), I'm calling shenanigans.

Otherwise, I think welfare-to-work programs are better, if only because it helps break some of the cycle of poverty.

Ideally thats the way it should go, but as long as we have a free market economy, we will always have poor people. In order to have people at the top or even middle, someone has to be at the bottom. We either deal with it with welfare and other programs or we go to communism (We know how well that works). I suppose we could not deal with it as well, and see crime rise even higher than it is now.

Yes and no. There will always be someone at the bottom, that's true. But the question is how likely their kids are to fall into that cycle, and it's arguable that if the kid sees that work = money, they'll get it in their head that working is a way out.

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Filed: 8/1/07

NOA1:9/7/07

Biometrics: 9/28/07

EAD/AP: 10/17/07

EAD card ordered again (who knows, maybe we got the two-fer deal): 10/23/-7

Transferred to CSC: 10/26/07

Approved: 11/21/07

 

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