Does the fiancee have to be in her country to be able to file for a fiancee visa?

[designguy 1,179]

Based on what you've written the K1 is a no go even if you go visit her on a vacation. With your red flags you need to be married, spend lots of time together, and then apply for a spousal visa, anything else and you are flushing money and time down the toilet

[Taradao 4]

I already flush 600 dollars down the toilet yesterday ( New Year's Eve,) by gambling on the slot machines.

You are absolutely correct. I go visit her in Spain sometime in late fall and see what happens. She will need to be a legal resident of Spain for two years before I can marry her.

If I spend a week with her and see more red flags, this cowboy ( I am from Texas) going riding on a different horse and out if the Alamo was on fire.

A spousal visa ( if it comes to the point) is the only option for her with me. 

Or I can find someone else less problematic than her.  

Thanks man for being upfront with me. 

I should have married that rich lovely Taiwanese singer twenty odd years ago. She was rich and talented. The only problem is that I don't speak two stinking words of Mandarin. We communicated by hand gestures. I look back and laugh.

[Cathi 5,771]

You came here asking for advice and whenever someone tells you the truth, you always have an answer. So why even ask for advice?

I'm going to give you the truth about Muslim women, you can deny it all you want, but it's TRUE.

In Islam she is NOT allowed to marry anyone but a Muslim male.

Period.

End of story.

It does NOT matter if she "doesn't mind being married to a Christian", she cannot do it and until you understand that, she's just going to continue stringing you along. When you first "met" her she was living under her parent's roof and it was clear her father didn't approve of you. Now she's living illegally in Spain and telling you that she loves and misses you, that is a red flag in and of itself, she wants out of the situation she's in. 

There are huge red flags here that you're ignoring, even when others have pointed them out. You're blinded by love.

Listen, I am a Catholic women who has been married to a Muslim male(who is 21 years younger than me) for 9 years, I know A LOT about Islam. My husband's family is very liberal on the Muslim scale and I mean VERY liberal. My husband's own sister fell in love with a Christian guy several years ago and she broke it off because she knew it's against her religion and she would never have done anything to bring "shame" upon the family, even though I'm sure they would have allowed her to marry him.(She is now married to a Muslim). 

 

I'm sorry if what I said seems harsh but I am never one to sugar coat anything here. Immigration is a long, expensive, stressful undertaking and you really need to do a lot of research on Islam, let alone the fact that she's living illegally in Spain, before you consider any type of immigration. Again, just because she says she "doesn't mind being married to a Christian" does not mean that she can or will.

 

[Crazy Cat 41,979]

1 hour ago, Taradao said:

I already flush 600 dollars down the toilet yesterday ( New Year's Eve,) by gambling on the slot machines.

You are absolutely correct. I go visit her in Spain sometime in late fall and see what happens. She will need to be a legal resident of Spain for two years before I can marry her.

If I spend a week with her and see more red flags, this cowboy ( I am from Texas) going riding on a different horse and out if the Alamo was on fire.

A spousal visa ( if it comes to the point) is the only option for her with me. 

Or I can find someone else less problematic than her.  

Thanks man for being upfront with me. 

I should have married that rich lovely Taiwanese singer twenty odd years ago. She was rich and talented. The only problem is that I don't speak two stinking words of Mandarin. We communicated by hand gestures. I look back and laugh.

I think you need to spend a LOT of time with her.  That is beneficial to the relationship as well as for immigration.  I think you know that her illegally entering and living in Spain is a major problem if your plan includes her immigration to the US.  The bottom line is that a life together inside the US is probably at least a couple years away even if she returns to Morocco.

Walk carefully and cautiously.  

Edited December 26, 2020 by Lucky Cat

[Taradao 4]

I will have two years flying back and forth from Texas to Spain to getting to know her well. I only have two long relationships in my life and this one seems balance except going to Spain.

I will walk gently on this one, and the first sign of problems, I will buck up to get going out.

Thank you again for chiming in.

[Taradao 4]

Cathi,

Her father doesn't know about me only the mother. The mother gave me her blessings.

I don't know if she is stringing me along unless I spend some quality time and ask more questions. She even asks me if you can change her faith to Christianity. I told her that is a decision she has to make upon herself. No shape or form, I am changing my faith for anyone.

She escapes to Spain because of an abusive father. The mother remains silent.

I do understand the long and arduous process and will hire Visa Journey to do all the guidance and questioning before I decide to marry her.

I have two years ( the time it takes to be a resident of Spain to marry anyone who is not a Spaniard.)  Hopefully, I know if I made the right decision or move on.

I have known her for almost 4 years this coming May. It is not someone I scoop off the streets of Casablanca.

Thank you for your insights. I value all opinions and stated truths that are shared here.

I may be a little stubborn sometimes but I know when to walk away if the cons outweigh the pros.

Thanks again

 

[African Zealot 1,455]

My first unsolicited advice is that if you’re not yet in love with her, end the romantic relationship and find someone else because you both face a lot of challenges culturally, generationally, religiously, legally etc.

 

With that said, Muslim women do marry non-Muslim men although Islam forbids it. I have seen many in my time however those happened in non-Islamic countries like my original country.

 

Quote

 

Morocco  

 

Article 39(4) of the 2004 Personal Status Law prohibits the marriage of a Muslim woman to a non-Muslim man and a Muslim man to a non-Muslim woman unless she is a Kitabia.[106] 

 

https://www.loc.gov/law/help/marriage/interfaith-prohibition.php#lebanon

 

 

It is good to have information ahead of time however let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves. Meet her in person and see how the relationship goes. People make sacrifices for love and after meeting you if the relationship goes smashingly well, she may be willing to return to her country to process the K1 or whichever visa. If you won’t be allowed to marry in Morocco because of religion, you can meet in a third country and get married.  

 

Your problems are not insurmountable. The important ingredient is that there is love and both parties are willing to sacrifice/risk to actualize this relationship. In order to ascertain that, you need to meet in person.

 

 

Edited December 26, 2020 by Ray.Bonaquist

[JeanneAdil 6,552]

11 hours ago, Taradao said:

I don't know the Spanish laws. From what I read they are lenient if they are caught and release within a few weeks or less. This may maybe all conjecture from the person that wrote the article. 

not for Moroccans as they are a real problem for the Spanish because the 2 countries are so close 

and Moroccans flee by boat from Tangers to Spain

and to Spain they bring too many people who have access to health care as soon as they get there stressing the medical system

 

 

 

[JeanneAdil 6,552]

3 hours ago, Taradao said:

I already flush 600 dollars down the toilet yesterday ( New Year's Eve,) by gambling on the slot machines.

You are absolutely correct. I go visit her in Spain sometime in late fall and see what happens. She will need to be a legal resident of Spain for two years before I can marry her.

If I spend a week with her and see more red flags, this cowboy ( I am from Texas) going riding on a different horse and out if the Alamo was on fire.

A spousal visa ( if it comes to the point) is the only option for her with me. 

Or I can find someone else less problematic than her.  

Thanks man for being upfront with me. 

I should have married that rich lovely Taiwanese singer twenty odd years ago. She was rich and talented. The only problem is that I don't speak two stinking words of Mandarin. We communicated by hand gestures. I look back and laugh.

not 2   but 5  and she must be documented to start the 5   Has she done this????

 

and she would still need to return to Morocco and get those 2 criminal reports 

 

Individuals can obtain permanent residency in Spain after having legally lived in the country for a period of five uninterrupted years. When they fulfill this specific condition, they can apply for permanent residency and then gain the right to live for the rest of their lives in the country.Dec 9, 2020

[Taradao 4]

3 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

not for Moroccans as they are a real problem for the Spanish because the 2 countries are so close 

and Moroccans flee by boat from Tangers to Spain

and to Spain, they bring too many people who have access to health care as soon as they get there stressing the medical system

 

 

 

 

Jeanne, 

For now, it is her life.  She wants to stay in Spain, her choice. If I were in her shoes, I would have waited for my man to come there first. As of now, it is a moot point. It becomes OUR life once we meet. 

I hope she doesn't get caught.  I am one of those guys that want her to happy. She told me a few hours ago that she has a lot of men asking her out for dates. She turned them down and said she already has a boyfriend. 

If she is caught and returned to Morocco, my problems become much easier to be resolved.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cathi,

Her father doesn't know about me only the mother. The mother gave me her blessings.

I don't know if she is stringing me along unless I spend some quality time and ask more questions. She even asks me if you can change her faith to Christianity. I told her that is a decision she has to make upon herself. No shape or form, I am changing my faith for anyone.

She escapes to Spain because of an abusive father. The mother remains silent.

I do understand the long and arduous process and will hire Visa Journey to do all the guidance and questioning before I decide to marry her.

I have two years ( the time it takes to be a resident of Spain to marry anyone who is not a Spaniard.)  Hopefully, I know if I made the right decision or move on.

I have known her for almost 4 years this coming May. It is not someone I scoop off the streets of Casablanca.

Thank you for your insights. I value all opinions and stated truths that are shared here.

I may be a little stubborn sometimes but I know when to walk away if the cons outweigh the pros.

Thanks again

 

[Taradao 4]

8 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

not 2   but 5  and she must be documented to start the 5   Has she done this????

 

and she would still need to return to Morocco and get those 2 criminal reports 

 

Individuals can obtain permanent residency in Spain after having legally lived in the country for a period of five uninterrupted years. When they fulfill this specific condition, they can apply for permanent residency and then gain the right to live for the rest of their lives in the country.Dec 9, 2020

She only needs two years of residency to be married. We get married in Spain and we fly back as a couple once the spousal visa is granted. I read the manifesto this morning. Full residency is 5 uninterrupted years. 

 

 

 

 

Cathi,

Her father doesn't know about me only the mother. The mother gave me her blessings.

I don't know if she is stringing me along unless I spend some quality time and ask more questions. She even asks me if you can change her faith to Christianity. I told her that is a decision she has to make upon herself. No shape or form, I am changing my faith for anyone.

She escapes to Spain because of an abusive father. The mother remains silent.

I do understand the long and arduous process and will hire Visa Journey to do all the guidance and questioning before I decide to marry her.

I have two years ( the time it takes to be a resident of Spain to marry anyone who is not a Spaniard.)  Hopefully, I know if I made the right decision or move on.

I have known her for almost 4 years this coming May. It is not someone I scoop off the streets of Casablanca.

Thank you for your insights. I value all opinions and stated truths that are shared here.

I may be a little stubborn sometimes but I know when to walk away if the cons outweigh the pros.

Thanks again

 

[JeanneAdil 6,552]

you seem   to ignore things

1   big age difference means several years and lots of time spent together and i would say a marriage to get the visa and How with her being illegal?

2   she has to have permanent residency in Spain to do anything there which is a 5 year wait

Individuals can obtain permanent residency in Spain after having legally lived in the country for a period of five uninterrupted years. When they fulfill this specific condition, they can apply for permanent residency and then gain the right to live for the rest of their lives in the country.Dec 9, 2020

3   she still is muslim and Morocco puts that on the Moroccan passport and as a muslim woman she can not marry a Christain man so the need to wait 5 years again to change passport 

4    she needs the 2 Morcocco criminal reports and has to apply in person with her national ID card and passport to get these and u say she will never return to Morocco/ only for the US visa process does she need these but how do you provide something she can't get?

 

No one here is against loving anyone

but your issues are BIG RED flags

i am  not against an age difference but immigration is and your case will go years and years 

[carmel34 3,639]

With the 38 year age gap, cultural, religious, and language differences, very challenging home country to get any US visa, and her illegal status in Spain, you're in for a long difficult road, sounds like you are starting to realize what you're up against.  Are you willing to live in Spain to spend one or more years with her to find out if she is interested in you for love, not for US immigration benefits?  How is she able to live in Spain illegally?  Are you sending her money?  There are so many big obstacles here plus you have never met her in person so start there before thinking about anything else.  Good luck!

[JeanneAdil 6,552]

5 years 

 

https://www.immigrate-spain.com/residency-in-spain#:~:text=Individuals can obtain permanent residency,their lives in the country.

[JeanneAdil 6,552]

You are set on doing this

so

send in the application and pay the fees and write the summary of your meeting and knowing each other

which will say 

she wants to interview in Spain as she illegally resides there and see  how far it goes 

USCIS will look at the fact she breaks that country's law and therefore conclude she will have no regard for ours

and ask what to do if she is be unable to return to Morocco for the 2 criminal reports from there and can't get one from Spain as an undocumented illegal

 

don't believe anyone here

believe what USCIS will say when you write the above.

 

and i am out as you are set to do the impossible