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An online petition to stop the opening of a church by a "whites only" religious organization in a Minnesota town has obtained more than 120,000 signatures as of Wednesday. 

The petition comes after the city council of Murdock, Minn., earlier this month approved a conditional permit to allow use of a church building bought by the Asatru Folk Assembly.

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Asatru Folk Assembly denies claims that it is a white supremacist or separatist group. 

“We’re not. It’s just simply not true," Allen Turnage, a folk assembly board member, told NBC. "Just because we respect our own culture, that doesn’t mean we are denigrating someone else’s."

The assembly on its website describes itself as “the religion by which the Ethnic European Folk have traditionally related to the Divine and to the world around them,” in which members “honor the Gods under the names given to them by our Germanic/Norse ancestors.”

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/531431-more-than-120000-signatures-collected-to-stop-whites-only-church-in

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1 hour ago, laylalex said:

why should this be a problem. Blacks do it all the time. In fact this is not to far from here. It was reported on the news in a very positive manner.

 

Same exact thing. 

 

 

 

 

Future of Freedom, Georgia: Sights set on 'being the 8th city in Wilkinson County'

https://wgxa.tv/news/local/future-of-freedom-ga-sights-set-on-being-the-8th-city-in-wilkinson-county

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Do not like anybody doing it.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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There's a difference though. Black churches don't seek to exclude any non-black worshippers. What my friend (who is from Mississippi and is white and sent me this article earlier today said) in Slack:

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“but what if I try to go to a black church?” “They will welcome you, say bless your heart, and feed you all the goddamned fried chicken and potato salad you can stomach”

“and invite you back next week!”

 

 

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

why should this be a problem. Blacks do it all the time. In fact this is not to far from here. It was reported on the news in a very positive manner.

 

Same exact thing. 

 

 

 

 

Future of Freedom, Georgia: Sights set on 'being the 8th city in Wilkinson County'

https://wgxa.tv/news/local/future-of-freedom-ga-sights-set-on-being-the-8th-city-in-wilkinson-county

It's a nothingburger. Honestly, the first thing that comes to mind is a comedy central gag where cameras watching the entrance to this place show how loosely ambiguous the definition of "white" really is. Humor and mocking had always been the sensible reaction to outliers like these (topic and your link). 

 

The woke intersectionality wing that focuses on race is really no different in that they're cultural dead ends taking advantage of times where people are at their weakest, which is why you visibly see so many doormats that tip over to the slightest pressure even though they know what reasonable is. 120k, 120 million, doesn't matter how many signatures.. let the dumb church have their freedom so they can be mocked and kept from being taken seriously as they should be. When you try and shut them down though, beyond the idiocy of authoritarianism and its greater implications, it actually gives them more appeal and changes the way people perceive them. 

 

The more we stick to liberal values like free speech, thick skin, and tolerance, and ignore the screeching from supremacists and SJWs, the more cancerous movements like these stay at the fringes where they belong and die off. 

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1 hour ago, laylalex said:

There's a difference though. Black churches don't seek to exclude any non-black worshippers. What my friend (who is from Mississippi and is white and sent me this article earlier today said) in Slack:

 

Some do this while some others do not do this and are openly segregationist. 

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17 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

why should this be a problem. Blacks do it all the time. In fact this is not to far from here. It was reported on the news in a very positive manner.

 

Same exact thing. 

 

 

 

 

Future of Freedom, Georgia: Sights set on 'being the 8th city in Wilkinson County'

https://wgxa.tv/news/local/future-of-freedom-ga-sights-set-on-being-the-8th-city-in-wilkinson-county

No this is NOT the exact same thing. Your link describes a city for Blacks not a church! Since when does this happen all the time? I've been around the block a time or two and I have never heard of a Blacks only church. There is a deference in a White only or Black only church by design, as opposed to a Black or White only church that the congregation is predominately all Black or all White. The operative word being  "By Design".


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Details are different but hopefully we can agree that however it is done it is not good.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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19 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

why should this be a problem.

 

  Nobody really cares if a bunch of white people get together in a church.  

 

  This particular group, the Asatru Folk Assembly, is founded on the same principal's of white supremacy and pure blooded racism that the Nazi's followed. I'm not asking why this is a problem. I'm asking why it isn't a problem? I wouldn't want these clowns in my town either. They know they are not wanted anywhere. That's why they picked a tiny village that doesn't have the legal resources to keep them away.

 

  

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4 hours ago, Boiler said:

Details are different but hopefully we can agree that however it is done it is not good.

That's true, and things are narrated in this way so as to make people forget about more fundamental values. Protection of those is almost never popular, and that's why people (particularly on the left side of the spectrum of late) who wish to erode/negate them often try to employ comical fallacies to get their way, hoping that the persistent pressure on weak people (not the rational basis of their claims which they know is junk) is sufficient to let them have their way. 

 

History has endlessly established that refusing to protect freedoms for people using them in ways we don't like winds up with that authoritarianism inevitably being used against anyone else and for whatever reason those who have/use this power prefer. The weak people who tipped over to avoid that pressure lose doubly.. they thought they'd avoid that pressure by giving up, but instead they are expected in the future to bend over without any effort. They face an even more uphill battle, as these weak people are the first targets in the future. This is why decent people need to constantly remind them, as dumb as they might be, the price they pay and never to give in. The city will face even more pressure to capitulate in the future if it complies, so if they're smart and have a spine, they know not to give an inch here. 

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