The Votes of Black Americans Should Count Twice

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https://www.thenation.com/article/society/black-votes-reparations-gerrymandering/

 

But there’s another way to undo the damage of the Electoral College and other structurally racist political institutions: We can implement vote reparations by double-counting ballots cast by all Black residents. The poisonous legacy of slavery applies to Black people regardless of when we or our ancestors arrived in this country. Vote reparations should also extend to Native Americans. Slavery is rightly called America’s original sin, but so too was the United States’ genocidal seizure of land from its original inhabitants. Various legal forms of disenfranchisement have applied to them. It wasn’t until 1962 that all Native Americans were allowed to vote, and even then they faced—and still face—electoral obstacles. These are not the only examples of American oppression; we should include in vote reparations others who have suffered similar disenfranchisement.

 

My first thought is how you define Black, presumably there would need to be some sort of register, perhaps somebody one of our progressive members could think of  some nice designation to be sewn onto clothing?

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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

https://www.thenation.com/article/society/black-votes-reparations-gerrymandering/

 

But there’s another way to undo the damage of the Electoral College and other structurally racist political institutions: We can implement vote reparations by double-counting ballots cast by all Black residents. The poisonous legacy of slavery applies to Black people regardless of when we or our ancestors arrived in this country. Vote reparations should also extend to Native Americans. Slavery is rightly called America’s original sin, but so too was the United States’ genocidal seizure of land from its original inhabitants. Various legal forms of disenfranchisement have applied to them. It wasn’t until 1962 that all Native Americans were allowed to vote, and even then they faced—and still face—electoral obstacles. These are not the only examples of American oppression; we should include in vote reparations others who have suffered similar disenfranchisement.

 

My first thought is how you define Black, presumably there would need to be some sort of register, perhaps somebody one of our progressive members could think of  some nice designation to be sewn onto clothing?

How was black defined for the majority of the history of this country when their right to vote was suppressed or denied?

 

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1 minute ago, CanAm1980 said:

How was black defined for the majority of the history of this country when their right to vote was suppressed or denied?

 

I believe Dems worked on the one drop rule, is that still current?

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Only twice? An awful idea that doesn't take equality seriously. Should be like 500 times. Then things would be really equal.

Edited December 20, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

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14 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I believe Dems worked on the one drop rule, is that still current?

I believe Republicans became the caretaker of that line of politics when Johnson signed The civil rights act, the voting rights act and the fair housing act (the law that got Trump in so much hot water) 

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18 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

I believe Republicans became the caretaker of that line of politics when Johnson signed The civil rights act, the voting rights act and the fair housing act (the law that got Trump in so much hot water) 

You mentioned the majority of history, certainly in Colorado that was a Dem preserve.

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3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

You mentioned the majority of history, certainly in Colorado that was a Dem preserve.

What was the Republican response?

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Just now, CanAm1980 said:

What was the Republican response?

No idea.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Boiler said:

No idea.

 

 

Republicans didnt exist in the era of Colorado's history?

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2 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Republicans didnt exist in the era of Colorado's history?

I am sure they did, well I know they did but the KKK were Dems.

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

I am sure they did, well I know they did but the KKK were Dems.

Clarence Morley was a Republican

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9 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Clarence Morley was a Republican

 

   Seems like many Republicans intentionally disregard the fact that both parties switched platforms over the late 19th and early part of the 20th century. I guess "party of Lincoln" sounds better for Republicans when they refuse to acknowledge that the platform of 1860 Republicans was classic 19th century liberalism. 

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36 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Clarence Morley was a Republican

And Benjamin Stapleton?

 

Now we have both parties. I guess they both switched to Republican.

 

The things party fanatics concoct and tell themselves to avoid the obvious fact that both parties were rife with white supremacy in a time where white supremacy was normative. Of course, that has little to do with now, where the KKK has no foothold anywhere, but where racism is apparently justified again because apparently now is a century ago.

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1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

 

   Seems like many Republicans intentionally disregard the fact that both parties switched platforms over the late 19th and early part of the 20th century. I guess "party of Lincoln" sounds better for Republicans when they refuse to acknowledge that the platform of 1860 Republicans was classic 19th century liberalism. 

Understandable that the polemics based on Identity politics and tribalism is an easier sell instead of a reliable examination of our racist past and how that impacts today's society. We have a blindspot on race, class  and economic fairness. I don't see that changing.

 

 

Edited December 20, 2020 by CanAm1980

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On 12/20/2020 at 7:07 AM, Boiler said:

I believe Dems worked on the one drop rule, is that still current?

Not sure if it was the Dems, but it could have been since the KKK was closely tied to the Dems. You are correct though the one drop rule is still in effect today!