Vaccines required

[VJmember2020 32]

Hello all, my wife does not know which vaccines she received as a kid and has no records of it as she was born in another country. 

 

When she goes for her medical exam, will the doc let her know which vaccines she needs to meet the requirement? or should she get all the vaccines needed ahead of time? 

[HRQX 4,145]

17 minutes ago, VJmember2020 said:

When she goes for her medical exam, will the doc let her know which vaccines she needs to meet the requirement? or should she get all the vaccines needed ahead of time? 

Ask Knightsbridge what options (e.g. tither test, etc.) they offer.

Edited December 13, 2020 by HRQX

[CMJuilland 485]

I had lost my vaccination certificate from my childhood when I went in for my medical; I only had one that was started in my 20s.  Instead of tither tests, I opted to just get re-vaccinated.  That was faster and cheaper than testing, and the doc’s office where I got my medical was able to take care of it right there and then.  Also, I figured a vaxx-update wouldn’t hurt  
Ultimately, you will need proof of immunization, so whatever is convenient to your wife should work. 
Best of luck with everything! 

[Letspaintcookies 2,310]

She should get a tither test done at her normal doctor and if needed update her immunizations there. It's the safest and probably cheapest way. 

[VJmember2020 32]

15 hours ago, CMJuilland said:

I had lost my vaccination certificate from my childhood when I went in for my medical; I only had one that was started in my 20s.  Instead of tither tests, I opted to just get re-vaccinated.  That was faster and cheaper than testing, and the doc’s office where I got my medical was able to take care of it right there and then.  Also, I figured a vaxx-update wouldn’t hurt  
Ultimately, you will need proof of immunization, so whatever is convenient to your wife should work. 
Best of luck with everything! 

thank you. any ETA on when my wife should schedule her medical ? we dont want to be too early or too late. 

13 hours ago, Letspaintcookies said:

She should get a tither test done at her normal doctor and if needed update her immunizations there. It's the safest and probably cheapest way. 

thank you!

[NikLR 13,232]

* Titre test  not Tither... 

https://www.healthline.com/health/antibody-titer

[HRQX 4,145]

1 hour ago, NikLR said:

* Titre

* Titer in US English, per the US government: https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002328.htm

[NikLR 13,232]

2 minutes ago, HRQX said:

* Titer in US English, per the US government: https://medlineplus.gov/ency/article/002328.htm

yes, OP spouse is based in UK.   

Edited December 15, 2020 by NikLR

[Wuozopo 4,293]

On 12/13/2020 at 4:27 PM, VJmember2020 said:

Hello all, my wife does not know which vaccines she received as a kid and has no records of it as she was born in another country. 

 

When she goes for her medical exam, will the doc let her know which vaccines she needs to meet the requirement? or should she get all the vaccines needed ahead of time? 

 

Adults only need 4 shots so documenting all the baby shots is unnecessary. Skip the titre talk. Anything not required of adults is marked waived as “not age appropriate”. The following is UK specific Information: 

 

Here are the shots needed for 19 through 59 years of age:

• Td or Tdap - Tetanus/diptheria/pertussis or get DT, DTP or DtaP and it will be accepted. The latest shot must be no longer than 10 years ago or you need a booster. In the UK they will give Revaxis which is Tetanus/diphtheria +polio. Adults don’t need polio for immigration but that’s the combo available in the UK. They don’t have a Tetanus and diphtheria only jab like Adacel given in the US.  
• MMR - (if born in 1957 or later)-Mumps/measles/rubella.  It's two doses in your life, but if you get the first dose, and 4 weeks haven't passed by your medical, they will waive the second dose for "insufficient time interval". If you only had one dose as a child, get a second one before the medical.
• Varicella - Not routinely given in the UK. A history of having chickenpox excuses you from the shot. They take your word for it at the visa medical exam. They will also waive the shot in the UK for "not routinely available". That works for spouse visas but not fiancés who could get the shot after POE and go to a civil surgeon to sign off. 
• Influenza - Required during flu season only, October 1 through March 31.  If your medical is not during flu season, you don't need it. 

 

If she waits until April to have her visa medical exam, then she only needs 2 shots—MMR and Td.

Varicella will be waived for “not routinely available” or if she tells the clinic she had chickenpox. 
Flu will be waived for “Not flu season”. Done. No additional shots needed for  immigration ever. NHS may or may not give the immunisations  free. It just depends her surgery and their rules. The visa clinic will give them. So will Boots.
 

 

On 12/14/2020 at 8:10 AM, VJmember2020 said:

any ETA on when my wife should schedule her medical ? we dont want to be too early or too lat

Wait until the NVC approves everything and emails her interview date. She will have around a month’s notice so she can get the medical done. It will be easy to get an appointment at the London clinic within a week. 
 

As a time gauge, TODAY 15-Dec,  people who had totally finished (Documentarily qualified) NVC last August received notice of January interview dates in London. 

 

 

Edited December 15, 2020 by Wuozopo

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

On 12/13/2020 at 4:15 PM, Letspaintcookies said:

She should get a tither test done at her normal doctor and if needed update her immunizations there. It's the safest and probably cheapest way. 

Except people who do this often end up having unnecessary vaccinations because they read off the list and their doctor is not a panel doctor who understands what the exemptions by age and season are. See @Wuozopo post above as an example of why this might happen.

Edited December 15, 2020 by SusieQQQ

[Letspaintcookies 2,310]

34 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Except people who do this often end up having unnecessary vaccinations because they read off the list and their doctor is not a panel doctor who understands what the exemptions by age and season are. See @Wuozopo post above as an example of why this might happen.

I would like to think that any doctor would know what to do when a person whit unknown vaccination status shows up at their desk. For me it would make sense to do a titer test to see where we stand and go on from there with giving age and season appropriate immunizations as needed to cover the bases. And since nothing special is needed for immigration it should be fine.

[Wuozopo 4,293]

55 minutes ago, Letspaintcookies said:

I would like to think that any doctor would know what to do when a person whit unknown vaccination status shows up at their desk. For me it would make sense to do a titer test to see where we stand and go on from there with giving age and season appropriate immunizations as needed to cover the bases. And since nothing special is needed for immigration it should be fine.

In the UK (because I’ve followed this more than 10 years) the NHS doctors only go by UK immunisation standards. They will say, you don’t need flu shot until you're old for example. They will not give a flu shot to somebody 20 or 30. American standards are different. A GP In the U.K.has guidelines for what is standard and be-damned what the US list says if it varies. So no a family doctor is not the best source in this case.  2 shots will get the OP’s fiancé through immigration so why go in with a list of 15 shots when most are waived? A titre would cost £100 and she can probably get MMR and Td (Revaxis) free on National Health.  It may be different in your country so go with whatever suits you.  I am only advising the OP.

 

You can also study the requirements and go to your doctor prepared for exactly what you need for the US.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/pdf/Vaccine-TI-Panel-Physicians-H.pdf

Edited December 15, 2020 by Wuozopo

[Letspaintcookies 2,310]

25 minutes ago, Wuozopo said:

In the UK (because I’ve followed this more than 10 years) the NHS doctors only go by UK immunisation standards. They will say, you don’t need flu shot until you're old for example. They will not give a flu shot to somebody 20 or 30. American standards are different. A GP In the U.K.has guidelines for what is standard and be-damned what the US list says if it varies. So no a family doctor is not the best source in this case.  2 shots will get the OP’s fiancé through immigration so why go in with a list of 15 shots when most are waived? A titre would cost £100 and she can probably get MMR and Td (Revaxis) free on National Health.  It may be different in your country so go with whatever suits you.  I am only advising the OP.

 

You can also study the requirements and go to your doctor prepared for exactly what you need for the US.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/immigrantrefugeehealth/pdf/Vaccine-TI-Panel-Physicians-H.pdf

I was actually totally agreeing with you that less is more. Seems like that didn't came out that clear

Edited December 15, 2020 by Letspaintcookies

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

3 hours ago, Letspaintcookies said:

I would like to think that any doctor would know what to do when a person whit unknown vaccination status shows up at their desk. For me it would make sense to do a titer test to see where we stand and go on from there with giving age and season appropriate immunizations as needed to cover the bases. And since nothing special is needed for immigration it should be fine.

Many stories of people arriving  at panel doctors with more immunizations than they need would counteract your view, in part because vaccination norms and requirements are not standard across countries.

[VJmember2020 32]

21 hours ago, Wuozopo said:

 

Adults only need 4 shots so documenting all the baby shots is unnecessary. Skip the titre talk. Anything not required of adults is marked waived as “not age appropriate”. The following is UK specific Information: 

 

Here are the shots needed for 19 through 59 years of age:

• Td or Tdap - Tetanus/diptheria/pertussis or get DT, DTP or DtaP and it will be accepted. The latest shot must be no longer than 10 years ago or you need a booster. In the UK they will give Revaxis which is Tetanus/diphtheria +polio. Adults don’t need polio for immigration but that’s the combo available in the UK. They don’t have a Tetanus and diphtheria only jab like Adacel given in the US.  
• MMR - (if born in 1957 or later)-Mumps/measles/rubella.  It's two doses in your life, but if you get the first dose, and 4 weeks haven't passed by your medical, they will waive the second dose for "insufficient time interval". If you only had one dose as a child, get a second one before the medical.
• Varicella - Not routinely given in the UK. A history of having chickenpox excuses you from the shot. They take your word for it at the visa medical exam. They will also waive the shot in the UK for "not routinely available". That works for spouse visas but not fiancés who could get the shot after POE and go to a civil surgeon to sign off. 
• Influenza - Required during flu season only, October 1 through March 31.  If your medical is not during flu season, you don't need it. 

 

If she waits until April to have her visa medical exam, then she only needs 2 shots—MMR and Td.

Varicella will be waived for “not routinely available” or if she tells the clinic she had chickenpox. 
Flu will be waived for “Not flu season”. Done. No additional shots needed for  immigration ever. NHS may or may not give the immunisations  free. It just depends her surgery and their rules. The visa clinic will give them. So will Boots.
 

 

Wait until the NVC approves everything and emails her interview date. She will have around a month’s notice so she can get the medical done. It will be easy to get an appointment at the London clinic within a week. 
 

As a time gauge, TODAY 15-Dec,  people who had totally finished (Documentarily qualified) NVC last August received notice of January interview dates in London. 

 

 

I will do as you said and wait until the NVC approves all documents and sends her the interview date. thank you.