Newly-pardoned Mike Flynn calls for Trump to suspend the Constitution and declare martial law then order military to hold a re-run election - and claims the alternative is 'CIVIL WAR'

[moxy 1,051]

14 hours ago, Ban Hammer said:

do not use that acronym again.

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This is what I love about VJ (for very small values of "love.") Racism, sexism, intolerance, mockery of individual lifestyle... that's all fair game. But by god do NOT use a commonly used and socially accepted acronym, this shall not stand!

 

Never change VJ, never change.

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[Ban Hammer 13,704]

19 minutes ago, moxy said:

This is what I love about VJ (for very small values of "love.") Racism, sexism, intolerance, mockery of individual lifestyle... that's all fair game. But by god do NOT use a commonly used and socially accepted acronym, this shall not stand!

 

 

if there is an issue report it using the report feature.  you know this. 

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[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

17 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

 

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“They reiterated the threat of charges against me, my son, as well as the potential of a long-term prison sentence,” he said. He said his attorneys then guided him on what to say during a second proffer session. “I should have stood my ground firmly for what I knew to be the truth — that I did not lie to the agents,” Flynn wrote.

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He said his attorneys encouraged him to plead guilty and take a plea deal, and that if he did not, he would be indicted, as well as possibly his son. He said he had seen reports that the FBI agents did not think he lied either, but his counsel still encouraged him to plead guilty.

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During a December 2018 hearing, he said he was caught off-guard by a plea colloquy where he was asked whether he wanted to withdraw his plea, seek independent counsel, or continue following his counsel’s advice. He said he was advised by his attorneys not to withdraw his plea.

He said in late spring 2019, his attorneys recommended he take “independent counsel,” and he terminated his relationship with them.

He concluded, “In truth, I never lied. My guilty plea has rankled me throughout this process, and while I allowed myself to succumb to the threats from the government to save my family, I believe I was grossly misled about what really happened.”

 

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/30/michael-flynn-requests-to-withdraw-guilty-plea-on-lying-to-fbi-i-am-innocent-of-this-crime/

 

The exculpatory evidence withheld by people (already demonstrated to withhold and doctor evidence needed to get what they want) speaks for itself, despite the clear persona obsession that clouds rational judgment. Doesn't matter how many times one pleads guilty under these coercive terms, they aren't valid.

Edited December 5, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Dashinka 24,950]

17 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

I don't know but Obama fired him, warned Trump about him, and then Trump hired him anyway, before he fired him, said he hardly knew him and then pardoned him. 

 

The man took an oath to uphold the constitution, he plead guilty to violating that oath.

To be fair, Obama was not a very good President.

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26 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

To be fair, Obama was not a very good President.

Your point?

[moxy 1,051]

1 hour ago, Ban Hammer said:

if there is an issue report it using the report feature.  you know this. 

Nah, I'm good. Reporting was a waste of time in the past, I doubt that's changed. Anyway, I don't really have an issue. I'm just amused by the priorities of the VJ moderation team. It's all good.

[Dashinka 24,950]

11 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Your point?

Just reacting to the fact that you pointed out all the warnings President Obama sent out a out General Flynn.

[moxy 1,051]

4 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Just reacting to the fact that you pointed out all the warnings President Obama sent out a out General Flynn.

Obama warned President Trump about Flynn.

Turns out Obama was right

Conclusion: Obama was a bad president.

 

Alrighty then.

[Dashinka 24,950]

Just now, moxy said:

Obama warned President Trump about Flynn.

Turns out Obama was right

Conclusion: Obama was a bad president.

 

Alrighty then.

Was Obama right?  Who is to say considering the way Obama politicized the Administration Departments in a way President Nixon could only envy.  For all we knew, Obama was pissed at Flynn because he would not play ball with the shenanigans Obama and Biden wanted to play.  Based on the evidence uncovered, Flynn did nothing wrong other than misleading Pence.

[moxy 1,051]

1 minute ago, Dashinka said:

Was Obama right?  Who is to say considering the way Obama politicized the Administration Departments in a way President Nixon could only envy.  For all we knew, Obama was pissed at Flynn because he would not play ball with the shenanigans Obama and Biden wanted to play.  Based on the evidence uncovered, Flynn did nothing wrong other than misleading Pence.

What if... maybe... for all we know...

 

Alrighty then.

[Dashinka 24,950]

Just now, moxy said:

What if... maybe... for all we know...

 

Alrighty then.

Kind of weak, but I was not the one that brought up President Obama in this thread.

[moxy 1,051]

3 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Kind of weak, but I was not the one that brought up President Obama in this thread.

No but you were the one to say he was a bad President in relation to Flynn. I don't know why people on one side or the other just can't give credit where it's due. Obama was right about Fynn, period. I thought George W Bush was a terrible president, but I thought his initial response to the 9/11 attacks was pitch perfect. I thought he did a lot of good in the fight against AIDS. See? It really is that easy.

 

Honestly, I have no opinion on Obama's merit on the scale of good <--> bad president, but the Flynn call was a no-brainer. Trump hired him because Obama said not to. As I've said before, owning the libs is not a good governance strategy.

[Dashinka 24,950]

5 minutes ago, moxy said:

No but you were the one to say he was a bad President in relation to Flynn. I don't know why people on one side or the other just can't give credit where it's due. Obama was right about Fynn, period. I thought George W Bush was a terrible president, but I thought his initial response to the 9/11 attacks was pitch perfect. I thought he did a lot of good in the fight against AIDS. See? It really is that easy.

 

Honestly, I have no opinion on Obama's merit on the scale of good <--> bad president, but the Flynn call was a no-brainer. Trump hired him because Obama said not to. As I've said before, owning the libs is not a good governance strategy.

Based on Obama’s swamp like actions, anything he says is questionable.