Is my relationship with my Moroccan Man legit?

[JVal91 3]

18 minutes ago, Ahmed&Freda said:

A few concerns I have right off the bat:

 

"said I would want my kids to be baptized, etc and he said he agreed with that"  This is not a normal response coming from a Muslim man starting a family.   Please Please  even though you won't be converting study Islam to better understand him (even if he isn't very religious) children born from interfaith relationship are still usually expected to be raised Muslim.  Although it may be accepted in some families this is not normally accepted.  

 

"He has tried searching a few times other ways to immigrate outside the marriage route. "   Sounds like visa shopping..this comment makes me most concerned.  

 

Marrying someone outside your religion and culture is not easy.   It something it takes so much more time and energy that many are just not cut out for.   There are lots of sacrifices and comprises to be made.   Please think these things through thoroughly.  In addition to  along visa process the cultural clash can be very taxing.   I don't regret my decision one iota but have seen so many failed attempts along the way that I hate to see someone get involved in something they are not ready for.   Don't rush it.  Do you research.  

 

Thank you very much. I thought the same about children being raised but then I also thought about his brother’s family and the brother is an atheist. He has shown me items about the Muslim faith and how it is not thaaat different from Catholism (that’s how I interpret it). Are there any resources you could recommend for studying Islam?

 

I pushed a lot about getting a visitor visa and having him come to me for the first few months and so he was showing me other routes he found (one was a video for 5 ways to get a visa and it included marrying a citizen). I told him flat out at that time if he was asking to marry me at that time I’d say no. Didn’t get angry and said not what I meant at all and we’re still in a relationship.  
 

You are right about it not being easy and it is something I’m thinking about for sure. 

[JVal91 3]

26 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

NVC is National visa Center and the 2nd stage of the process where the USC submits proof of income to support the immigrant and the immigrant supplies a criminal report (2 from Morocco as one is driving record) and other documents and some new forms filed by both with USC paying 2 more fees

at this stage when all are accepted and approved NVC contacts the embassy in Casa and they set up time for interview.

 

One thing you need to do is find out (if you go ever for a visa for him ) is did the USC ever cancel her petition to bring him to the USshe

and that is all i would ask her

too many USC's give up and divorce so talking and believing her,   i wouldn't / she can say anything out of spite to discredit him

Really great info and advice, thank you. I was thinking she didn’t cancel it after it got approved since NVC sent this follow up letter to him late April 2020 about not submitting not his visa application yet (well after they were divorced in 2019). A good thing to ask for sure, thank you. 

[Chancy 6,241]

1 hour ago, JVal91 said:

Not sure if it makes a difference but he is from Rabat, not Casablanca.

 

When people here talk about US immigration from Morocco, they usually mention Casablanca.  The US consulate there is the only one that handles immigrant visa processing for Moroccan residents.

 

[JVal91 3]

1 hour ago, Chancy said:

 

When people here talk about US immigration from Morocco, they usually mention Casablanca.  The US consulate there is the only one that handles immigrant visa processing for Moroccan residents.

 

Oh ok. Thank you so much for clarifying I appreciate it. 

[cindy1875 1]

18 hours ago, JVal91 said:

Hello,

I’m wondering if I can get an outsider perspective on whether my relationship is as real as I think/hope, please. 
A Moroccan man liked me on a dating site I’m on and reached out to me on Instagram in April 2020. He’s 27 and I’m 29. We started messaging and hit it off. We speak every day via text and audio calls, and video call often. He was married to an American lady (not sure how old she is) but before he did the visa application to go to the US she decided she wanted a divorce because her family/friends said he would leave when he arrived. He left his job at a government owned fitness club to be with her in the states and now is trying I make money as a self-employed private fitness trainer because it’s difficult to get a job there. They divorced a year before he knew me. He didn’t tell me he loved me until after 3 months of us talking. He’s Muslim but not very religious and I’m Catholic. We talked about our views on marriage and kids (we both want these). I said I would want my kids to be baptized, etc and he said he agreed with that. He’s never asked me for money. Very respectful and caring. He communicates with my mom on social media (after asking my permission/how I would feel about it). He even posted/told people on his social media I’m his girlfriend. His older brother is married to an Australian woman and lives with her in Australia with their 2 kids and he is apparently an atheist. We haven’t met yet because of COVID. He has tried searching a few times other ways to immigrate outside the marriage route. At about 4 months he was showing links of options that he found and one mentioned marrying a citizen. My response was there are other ways and if he were proposing to me at that time I would say no. He expressly said that’s not what he meant. He wasn’t angry or anything like that. We have been talking for over 7 months now. 
I’ve never been married, no kids. 
 

*Trying to give as much info as I can.*
I love him and I believe he loves me, and I do trust him but posts on the internet and comments from a couple of family members are really starting to get to me. Your honest perspective is really appreciated. Thank you for your time! 

I would say test him first before u put ur whole life for this unknown guy u met online. Be like I am coming to ur country to stay with u forever with no paperwork done for him . see how he reacts. action speaks louder than words. dont trust simple he might have intentions u never know. and A man wont fall easily for someone online unless u guys meet in person. so dont rush meet get to know him better .I would say spend more time with him visit his country time to time and after dating couple years decide later to bring him with u . People use u for visa be careful u dont wanna regret later.

[SalishSea 17,829]

4 hours ago, imsan said:

FOIA does not disclose information about others. It just gives information about yourself. Speaking from experience.

I wasn't sure if one could make a FOIA request for someone other than themself.

[Cathi 5,748]

I'm a Catholic married to a Muslim male.

 

Any Muslim male who tells you he is OK with his children being baptized as a Christian, is lying.

Period.

Even if he "isn't very religious" I'm sure his parents are and they would never, ever allow their grandchildren to be raised anything but Muslim.

[JeanneAdil 6,504]

14 hours ago, Chancy said:

 

When people here talk about US immigration from Morocco, they usually mention Casablanca.  The US consulate there is the only one that handles immigrant visa processing for Moroccan residents.

 

Yes,  we say Casa as that is where he has to take the medical exam (no other place) and where the embassy is for interviews (Rabat embassy does not interview)

[ohcoffeeeyes 120]

On 12/2/2020 at 4:57 PM, Redheadguy03 said:

I'm 36 and have like 140, that's not too many. My little sister doesn't even have one. So some people just don't like it, odd kind of, I don't know if I'd say it's a red flag though. 

Not a red flag. I am early 20s and I only have like 55... only use it for family and close friends.

[Wee-moon-ah 3]

On 12/2/2020 at 12:06 AM, Chancy said:

 

I read that unfortunately, something similar happened to some VJ members who sponsored Moroccan partners for US immigration.  Also, this is not a problem limited to Moroccans.  Not saying that this is what your man intends to do.  Just be aware that this is a possibility with actual precedent.

 

I strongly recommend that you do NOT commit to anything long-term until you've spent a lot of time together in person.  Not engagement for marriage, not petitioning for immigration.  Online chats and video calls, even multiple times daily, are not enough to get a good grasp of someone's behavior and personality in order to make such a life-changing decision.

 

Also, there are no guaranteed approvals with US immigration.  How do you feel about moving to Morocco to be with your loved one?  How does your boyfriend feel about building a life together and supporting you in Morocco?  If one or both of you are not comfortable with this possibility, it's time to seriously rethink whether this relationship is worth pursuing.  If your boyfriend is not open to the idea of staying in Morocco, that could be a warning for you to reconsider his motives for contacting you.

 

Good luck and best wishes to you.

 

Heck ya I agree with everything you said.  I’m in the same situation. I’ve gone to Vietnam 5-6 x to see her but I still have some doubts.  Yeh I should talk to her about the possibility of me moving to Vietnam. I did ask before and she’s ok with it. 

[Wee-moon-ah 3]

On 12/2/2020 at 5:53 AM, JVal91 said:

Hi, thank you. I totally agree I wouldn’t commit to marriage or immigration right now if I haven’t met him in person not even once. He did apply for the visa lottery. I pushed for visitor visa for while and because he doesn’t have a lot of money and is self-employed, so on paper he doesn’t have ties that he’d go back home even if he has a car and most of his family is there, etc. The three family members have not met or talked with him and are basing their concerns on what they have also been reading online. I’m trying to be careful and not be blinded by love so I thought I’d reach out here. Thank you again. 

Good luck with everything. Sounds like we are both in the same shoes. I’m at the part where I need to send in my paperwork to show proof of income and I’m having second thoughts. She’s been acting weird lately and I’m not nvm sure if I want to pull the trigger. If you have any questions let me know.