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Hi everyone. My fiancé was granted permission to come to the US from el Salvador in July. When he arrived to the airport in El Salvador and passed through immigration, they detained him and put him in jail for one week for an outstanding balance on a loan. It’s not been easy, but emotions aside — has anyone had something similar happen? 
 

We were told to send back the passport to the embassy while they review our case all over again. It is no longer on his record, as he went to court and paid a lawyer. But will this disqualify us from getting our visa? How long will this process take? They keep telling us to wait. 
 

Thanks in advance for any helpful and kind comments and advise. Good luck to you all. 

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This is the first such situation that I've heard about here.

Was he charged with a specific crime?  What did he pay the lawyer to do in court?

The consulate apparently requested to review the matter.  It will take as long as it takes.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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Yes, there was an “alert” at the airport that he couldn’t leave the country. So it was similar to a warrant I guess? But we never knew about it or informed about the alert. They had put him in jail because the lender was out of the country and unable to receive the payment if he had paid it that day... it didn’t make a lot of sense. But he got out in 5 days (they were going to keep him for a year) and had to finish court and get it off his record before sending it back to embassy. I was just curious if anyone knew how long but I assume nobody will know esp with covid. Thanks for ur reply. 

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On 11/30/2020 at 11:06 AM, Nati34 said:

Hi everyone. My fiancé was granted permission to come to the US from el Salvador in July. When he arrived to the airport in El Salvador and passed through immigration, they detained him and put him in jail for one week for an outstanding balance on a loan. It’s not been easy, but emotions aside — has anyone had something similar happen? 
 

We were told to send back the passport to the embassy while they review our case all over again. It is no longer on his record, as he went to court and paid a lawyer. But will this disqualify us from getting our visa? How long will this process take? They keep telling us to wait. 
 

Thanks in advance for any helpful and kind comments and advise. Good luck to you all. 

Outstanding balance on a loan?? 
I have an outstanding balance on all my loans and I got approved all the way.. has to be something other than a loan ..

has to be a warrant on something else .. 

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Happened to a friend of mine, unpaid fine, probably lost in translation.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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It was a long time ago and different enough not to be relevant, just wanted to carify the reason.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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11 hours ago, WHATSMYSTATUS said:

I have an outstanding balance on all my loans and I got approved all the way.. has to be something other than a loan ..

has to be a warrant on something else .. 

 

Do you have those outstanding balances in El Salvador like the OP's fiance?  Different countries, different laws.

 

I suspect non-payment of loans is treated similarly in El Salvador as it is in my country where it can be considered a crime.  Someone who skips out on loan payments (including loans to individuals) may be charged with the crime of estafa which covers frauds, scams, swindling.  Once the criminal case is filed, the aggrieved party may request a hold-departure order to be issued against the offending party.  Sounds like what happened to the OP's fiance.

 

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On 11/29/2020 at 9:36 PM, Nati34 said:

Hi everyone. My fiancé was granted permission to come to the US from el Salvador in July. When he arrived to the airport in El Salvador and passed through immigration, they detained him and put him in jail for one week for an outstanding balance on a loan. It’s not been easy, but emotions aside — has anyone had something similar happen? 
 

We were told to send back the passport to the embassy while they review our case all over again. It is no longer on his record, as he went to court and paid a lawyer. But will this disqualify us from getting our visa? How long will this process take? They keep telling us to wait. 
 

Thanks in advance for any helpful and kind comments and advise. Good luck to you all. 

Maybe he should pay off his debt prior to immigrating?

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9 minutes ago, Allovertheworld said:

Define Debts

Whatever caused him to be arrested

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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3 hours ago, Allovertheworld said:

Exactly.

 

I have heard of this at numerous countries.  Google UAE, seems to be pretty common in that country trying to leave with debt unpaid or certain items.......

Yes, this. I lived in the UAE for several years and people were routinely arrested for non payment of loans and other debts, often based on poor/incorrect information. I had a Lebanese friend who was arrested pretty much every time he entered the UAE as a phone company had him listed as a representative for a company that he no longer worked for, and incorrectly listed that the bills hadn't been paid (they had). He had to carry around the paperwork to prove that he no longer worked there, and that the company had paid its debts, but it would still happen every time he entered the country.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Ollieh97 said:

OP was asking for help/advice, not judgement. If you have nothing useful to provide, maybe say nothing at all?

TOS prohibits telling others not to post.

 

Anyway, it was a suggestion in light of OP indicating that apparently the "crime" of the debt had been expunged or whatever, but apparently not the debt itself.

 
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