Is a 'tamper-proof' card that can not be forged possible?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

Q So the question is, after those six years, if they get the six years in this program, how will you enforce sending people back who have to go back who have been living --

THE PRESIDENT: Well, you'll have to have a tamper-proof card in order to work. In other words, there will be -- it will make it much easier to have employer enforcement in place when there is a card that you know is tamper-proof. In other words, one that can't be forged.

Right now there's a whole document forging industry that has evolved. There are people sneaking across in 18-wheelers or people risking their lives. And the system is inhumane, as far as I'm concerned, and it needs to be reformed.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/03/bu...ernoon_for.html

The Prez wants a 'tamper-proof' card to be issued to workers as part of his guest-worker program.

Question: Is a tamper-proof card even possible?

[Jenn! 918]

It will be made out of diamonds and platinum....

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

It will be made out of diamonds and platinum....

[Jenn! 918]

It will be made out of diamonds and platinum....

Just wait and see....

It's part of the prize package. "Now let's see what our next illegal immigrant has won...it's a diamond and platinum EAD!"

[faith 0]

Q So the question is, after those six years, if they get the six years in this program, how will you enforce sending people back who have to go back who have been living --

THE PRESIDENT: Well, you'll have to have a tamper-proof card in order to work. In other words, there will be -- it will make it much easier to have employer enforcement in place when there is a card that you know is tamper-proof. In other words, one that can't be forged.

Right now there's a whole document forging industry that has evolved. There are people sneaking across in 18-wheelers or people risking their lives. And the system is inhumane, as far as I'm concerned, and it needs to be reformed.

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2006/03/bu...ernoon_for.html

The Prez wants a 'tamper-proof' card to be issued to workers as part of his guest-worker program.

Question: Is a tamper-proof card even possible?

I doubt it, as there will always be someone that will have access to the templates for the cards. I mean, look at military ID cards. If you work in supply where they print them, you could in theory walk out with a whole bunch of blank templates.

[lucyrich 20]

Completely tamper-proof card? No.

Even if you make a card that is highly resistant to tampering, you're depending on the skill of the person inspecting the card to detect evidence of tampering, and to know the difference between a valid card and an invalid one. Small time employers who only take on two or three new employees a year won't get enough practice to become experts.

But it IS theoretically possible to have a system of verification that is pretty hard to break without having some serious insider help. If the card is computer readable, and if a person trying to verify the card can check against a central computer database of validly issued cards and find out whether the card was validly issued, and get some verifiable information about the person to whom it was issued (like a photo and name of the person to whom it was issued), then a forged card becomes useless. It probably won't show up as validly issued. Or if it's forged by stealing and duplicating or altering a valid card number, then the verification process will show the photo and stats of the person to whom the original card was validly issued.

Such a system is still subject to tampering by anyone who has access to alter the central computer database, of course, but any any scheme of "tamper proof" cards can be subverted if the authorized issuers of the cards can be bribed.

There are cost issues, logistics issues, and privacy concerns about how the verification system must be designed, of course.

A similar idea is used with ATM cards and credit cards. Those cards aren't very tamper-proof, but before approving a transaction, merchants can check a central computer network to at least validate that the account number hasn't been reported stolen or cancelled, and that sufficient funds are available for the transaction.

[Mirorgate 0]

RFID chips embedded within the cards.

Harder to forge, but not impossible. They'll just get charged more by the forgers for the effort.

[almaty 19]

nowadays, no..maybe in crawford texas.

[Kajikit 65]

I would say that it's impossible to make anything COMPLETELY tamperproof... anything that man can make, another man can learn to copy/counterfeit/alter...

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I would say that it's impossible to make anything COMPLETELY tamperproof... anything that man can make, another man can learn to copy/counterfeit/alter...

I agree.

So if Bush's entire plan is based on the creation of a 'tamper proof' ID card, what does that say about his plan?

[faith 0]

I would say that it's impossible to make anything COMPLETELY tamperproof... anything that man can make, another man can learn to copy/counterfeit/alter...

I agree.

So if Bush's entire plan is based on the creation of a 'tamper proof' ID card, what does that say about his plan?

am i allowed to answer that and still keep my standing as a member of the republican national party?

[w¡n9Nµ7 §£@¥€r 123]

I would say that it's impossible to make anything COMPLETELY tamperproof... anything that man can make, another man can learn to copy/counterfeit/alter...

I agree.

So if Bush's entire plan is based on the creation of a 'tamper proof' ID card, what does that say about his plan?

am i allowed to answer that and still keep my standing as a member of the republican national party?

Yes. If Tancredo can be a Republican, so can you

[faith 0]

*deep breath* I can't believe I'm gonna say this:

it's a stupid plan

*this statement does not in any way shape or form mean that I think Bush is stupid because I don't.*

[cmartyn 0]

Impossible. It will never happen.. tamperproof ID as MDYoung explained, is practically impossible. Sure, you could create an almost perfect system but it would never become law. Not unless a few more jets pile into some office towers.

[Jasman0717 9]

When crooks are involved,