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You're really not that important. It was relevant back then and I still stand by what I said about it then. You only need to look at some of the immigration news threads to find it.

And that's what the + is for. Considering that there have been threads here making fun of trans kids, I really doubt that that concern was genuine.

Nice dodge though. It's ridiculous how many people are shouting about Shariah law as if the Republican party isn't pushing for the same ideals, but from a "Christian" standpoint.

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20 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

You're really not that important. It was relevant back then and I still stand by what I said about it then. You only need to look at some of the immigration news threads to find it.

And that's what the + is for. Considering that there have been threads here making fun of trans kids, I really doubt that that concern was genuine.

Nice dodge though. It's ridiculous how many people are shouting about Shariah law as if the Republican party isn't pushing for the same ideals, but from a "Christian" standpoint.

Christians already tried it, and failed. They also tried this "you're offending my wonderful religion, your speech must be silenced" authoritarianism too, liberalism rebuffed it because freedoms > feelings. It's nice to see the left progressively kicking liberalism to the side to resurrect old unwanted conservative white male ideas to protect one of the world's worst religions. 

 

Ah, and lets not forget the litany of other illiberal criteria the left expanded this authoritarian methodology to, noted in the middle of your post. Those white male Christians of yore must be mad+jealous as hell with the left's unwarranted success on their rejected ideas.

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11 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Christians already tried it, and failed. They also tried this "you're offending my wonderful religion, your speech must be silenced" authoritarianism too, liberalism rebuffed it. It's nice to see the left progressively kicking liberalism to the side to resurrect old unwanted conservative white male ideas to protect one of the world's worst religions.

Ah yes, because the republican party isn't constantly shouting about repealing section 230. That definitely doesn't happen and the president definitely doesn't talk about that all the time. As if he didn't just bring that up again because something he didn't like was trending on Twitter.

And what religion are the idiots harassing women outside of abortion clinics again? Or the ones attacking reproductive rights in the first place? What religion are the people constantly attacking trans rights? Who just decided that something as vile as conversion therapy is totally okay?

Religious extremism is bad, in general. But let's not pretend that it's just Muslims who are the bad guys here.

And conservative white males protecting the world? That's hilarious.

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19 minutes ago, sl1pstream said:

Ah yes, because the republican party isn't constantly shouting about repealing section 230. That definitely doesn't happen and the president definitely doesn't talk about that all the time.

I'm actually glad you mentioned this. The respect for individuals to espouse their beliefs can also be seen in the left's use of section 230 to silence people they oppose all over the internet in the last several years. This is very much how the white male Christians sought to mold the internet at its inception. Of course, you thought that invoking it along with the word "Trump" would somehow mean Trump is attacking freedoms, except section 230, part of a law, isn't about freedoms (it's about who's responsible for what content), the first amendment is. I can understand why the difference here is negligible to some, because clearly their respect for freedoms are too. Kinda like a certain religion they like to defend.

 

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And what religion are the idiots harassing women outside of abortion clinics again? Or the ones attacking reproductive rights in the first place? What religion are the people constantly attacking trans rights? Who just decided that something as vile as conversion therapy is totally okay?

Harassment is illegal. Protesting is not. What you call "harassing" are actually people espousing their views, holding up signs, etc. So what? They cannot legally stop a woman from getting an abortion nor can they harass her. Views are only harassment to people that think they can silence dissenting opinions. These authoritarians were white male Christians trying to institute blasphemy laws and such, it failed.

 

And about abortion and trans rights, there's roughly 50 Muslim majority countries, feel free to go through every one of them with what you're saying, see how it works out. I bet you don't make it through the first few before you're killed. You're free here to pitch bad ideas, there, not so much. So trying to make here more like there, no thanks. I prefer liberalism, which means freedom, not whatever conservative white male authoritarianism you're not so subtly proposing.

 

You have to enjoy the irony of pairing yourself with Islam while trying to tell people how its others attacking your freedoms while you attack their freedoms and advocate the very ideas you're trying to tell people they're paranoid about foreigners trying to institute. In the modern venacular we call this gaslighting. 

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You can exercise your free speech and still harass someone. These things aren't mutually exclusive. Harassment isn't necessarily a "this is legal" or "this is illegal" thing. It is often subjective. What one person feels is intimidating may not be what another person does. I have been verbally harassed -- politically, sexually -- by others and what was done to me was not illegal. Uncomfortable? Yes. Upsetting? Yes. Illegal? No.

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Administrative action has been applied to two accounts.

06-04-2007 = TSC stamps postal return-receipt for I-129f.

06-11-2007 = NOA1 date (unknown to me).

07-20-2007 = Phoned Immigration Officer; got WAC#; where's NOA1?

09-25-2007 = Touch (first-ever).

09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

01-09-2008 = File from USCIS to NVC, 1-4-08; NVC creates file, 1/15/08; to consulate 1/16/08.

01-23-2008 = Consulate gets file; outdated Packet 4 mailed to fiancee 1/27/08; rec'd 3/3/08.

04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

07-2008 = Daily calls to DOS: "currently processing"; 8/05 = Phoned consulate, got Section Chief; wrote him.

08-07-08 = E-mail from consulate, promising to issue visa "as soon as we get her passport" (on 8/12, per DHL).

08-27-08 = Phoned consulate (they "couldn't find" our file); visa DHL'd 8/28; in hand 9/1; through POE on 10/9 with NO hassles(!).

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