'A huge catastrophe': Democrats grapple with congressional and state election losses

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10 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

   I’ll say again, 2022 midterms have some very favorable senate races for the dems. Five of those traditional blue state seats that went red for Trump in 2016 will be up for grabs. 21 GOP senators up for reelection vs 11 Dems. 
 

   Republicans will need to do well in the house in 2022 to keep things balanced.

But they will have 2 years in charge by 2022.

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6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

But they will have 2 years in charge by 2022.

 

   That an astute observation on your part.

[TBoneTX 45,955]

9 hours ago, Boiler said:

But they will have 2 years in charge by 2022.

Two long years to wreak perhaps irreparable damage.

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On 11/22/2020 at 11:30 PM, TBoneTX said:

"A coattail with no coat."

Would be interesting to know the last time that happened (if ever).

Read a little about it.  Only similar time was 1992 (B. Clinton vs. GHW Bush), but that was an anomaly because of Ross Perot's candidacy.

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3 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Read a little about it.  Only similar time was 1992 (B. Clinton vs. GHW Bush), but that was an anomaly because of Ross Perot's candidacy.

If you go back to the 1992 election, that was a lot like 2016.  You had an outside the beltway type, Bill Clinton, and to a lesser extent Ross Perot against a DC insider.  Of course Bush did not do himself any favors by abandoning Reagan ideals.

[Prizm123 1,086]

6 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Two long years to wreak perhaps irreparable damage.

lol hyperbole

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1 hour ago, Prizm123 said:

lol hyperbole

Not really when China is already trying to dictate stuff to Biden. 

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In 2 years we will have Green New Deal, Reparations, Defend the Police etc etc all fully active.

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3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

In 2 years we will have Green New Deal, Reparations, Defend the Police etc etc all fully active.

Which is what scares me. I can really see them pushing the whole Reparations thing with a check to everyone. 

[Prizm123 1,086]

yeah, like i said, hyperbole

bad hyperbole that ignores fundamental truths, like none of that will pass unless there is a democrat supermajority in the senate, and even if there were, there are enough moderate democrats that dont support those things that make it very difficult

some of the right wing nonsense thrown around here border on stupidity on the level of q anon

get real

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8 minutes ago, Prizm123 said:

yeah, like i said, hyperbole

bad hyperbole that ignores fundamental truths, like none of that will pass unless there is a democrat supermajority in the senate, and even if there were, there are enough moderate democrats that dont support those things that make it very difficult

some of the right wing nonsense thrown around here border on stupidity on the level of q anon

get real

So you don't think that the Democrats will try to ram any of this through? I can see that they will try to do reparations and if you are against it then you are suddenly racist. 

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1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So you don't think that the Democrats will try to ram any of this through? I can see that they will try to do reparations and if you are against it then you are suddenly racist. 

Racial Justice is a major tenet of the Dems first 2 years. Otherwise how will they keep their base?

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11 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So you don't think that the Democrats will try to ram any of this through? I can see that they will try to do reparations and if you are against it then you are suddenly racist. 

they dont have a prayer of getting any of those through

again, you need a super majority in the senate. best case scenario is 50/50 with Kamala being the tie breaker. this is NOT a super majority

something like this could never be passed even in a reconciliation bill. its all DOA

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5 minutes ago, Prizm123 said:

they dont have a prayer of getting any of those through

again, you need a super majority in the senate. best case scenario is 50/50 with Kamala being the tie breaker. this is NOT a super majority

something like this could never be passed even in a reconciliation bill. its all DOA

That is why I would like the Dems to win Georgia, then there will be no excuses.

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no excuses for what?

even IF they both win, those issues are non starters

and again, still 10 votes short of a supermajority