K1 or Cr1, does the co sponsor have to know we are married?

[Lauren&smith83 0]

I have a few questions regarding the K1 & CR1 visa. 

 

My girlfriend and I currently live together, have heaps of evidence etc. We will have known each other 2 years in June 2021. 

 

She currently studies in Aus and has no history of working in the states, therefore we’d be rejected. 

 

I understand we will need a co-sponsor. Now here’s the thing... we are so happy to get married and apply for this visa although 1) we don’t have a ring & I haven’t proposed 

2) my partners mum would freak if she found out with got married and she hasn’t seen her daughter in 3 years and has only met me once. 

3) she doesn’t want to move back to the states and have time apart to build up a financial income to sponsor me. 

 

We wanted to go down the K1 visa just to avoid this situation although the Cr1 sounds way more promising and the timeline will link up pretty good for us if it takes on average 12-13 months (even a tad bit longer we are okay with) which we hope as we come from low fraud countries. 

 

We’ve heard a few horror stories about the k1 visa and being rejected even if the co-sponsor meets the income requirements which scares us entirely!!! We need to be over there in 2022. 

 

Once we get married (just at a registry, nothing fancy) I could get my savings for $30+ grand signed into her name? That’s the only thing I currently have. I don’t own any houses and neither does she over in the states. We just have evidence such as joint bank accounts, credit cards, car insurance and a rental agreement. 

 

Is there any way that her mum doesn’t need to know that we are married while signing as our co-sponsor? I’m not sure if this could reject our chances of getting the CR1 visa and that would be insanely devastating as she will be working for her mum's company in 2022. 

 

Is there any other way around this than taking the risky k1 visa route? Considering we were going to do the k1 visa and just get married and not tell her mum until we plan an offical wedding. It’s all very stressful! If we tell her mum we got married we know she wouldn’t consider being our co-sponsor and we have no one else that could do it. 

 

I know this probably sounds a bit immature although different cultural backgrounds play a big role in this dilemma. 

 

We just want to know if there’s any other route we can take or any way of rejection if the mother doesn’t know we are married. 

 

Any advice would be highly appreciated. Thank you for your time reading this! 

[Crazy Cat 42,033]

15 minutes ago, Lauren&smith83 said:

Is there any way that her mum doesn’t need to know that we are married while signing as our co-sponsor?

Seriously?   What a way to start a relationship with the mother of your fiance/spouse!!!!  Any joint sponsor should be aware of everything involved in their obligations as well as the situation..

Edited November 17, 2020 by Lucky Cat

[Crazy Cat 42,033]

10 minutes ago, Lauren&smith83 said:

3) she doesn’t want to move back to the states and have time apart to build up a financial income to sponsor me. 

She will HAVE to show evidence of domicile in the US or intent to re-establish domicile.....period.  

[JeanneAdil 6,606]

It makes more sense to explain to the mother what you want to do and the BIG why do it this way

then ask her consent to marry (no reason she could not attend the ceremony) and talk about a renewal of vows in the US for family and freinds

Most students  have no income so in this case a joint sponsor is the norm

but don't go behind the mother's back and do anything to upset the "apple cart"

just prepare for everything immigration with complete honesty

or do a K1 and wait / either way you are waiting 

 

you say you are both from low fraud countries.   so who's the USC?

[Crazy Cat 42,033]

3 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

you say you are both from low fraud countries.   so who's the USC?

The OP is NOT the USC.

[aaron2020 11,651]

Time to put on your big boy's pants.

 

Being honest with the Joint Sponsor is being respectful that she is putting her financial self on the line for YOU.  

 

[Boiler 45,899]

Filing an I 864 is a bot of a give away.

[JeanneAdil 6,606]

18 minutes ago, Lucky Cat said:

The OP is NOT the USC.

doesn't sound like either of them are 

Maybe only the mother is in the US

[Ontarkie 14,369]

~~Moved to What Visa DO I Need, form IR1/CR1 P&P - the OP has not started any process yet and is researching.~~

[Crazy Cat 42,033]

Just now, JeanneAdil said:

doesn't sound like either of them are 

Maybe only the mother is in the US

I believe they are both currently in Australia.......

[JeanneAdil 6,606]

Just now, Lucky Cat said:

I believe they are both currently in Australia.......

yes,   but who is the USC  ?   says they are both from low fraud countries and that's why i asked

 

[aaron2020 11,651]

9 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

yes,   but who is the USC  ?   says they are both from low fraud countries and that's why i asked

 

The girlfriend is the USC.  She is going back to the US to work at her mother's company in 2022.

Seems like she is a USC studying at an Australian university.  

[mushroomspore 3,044]

1 hour ago, Lauren&smith83 said:

I have a few questions regarding the K1 & CR1 visa. 

 

My girlfriend and I currently live together, have heaps of evidence etc. We will have known each other 2 years in June 2021. 

 

She currently studies in Aus and has no history of working in the states, therefore we’d be rejected. 

 

I understand we will need a co-sponsor. Now here’s the thing... we are so happy to get married and apply for this visa although 1) we don’t have a ring & I haven’t proposed 

2) my partners mum would freak if she found out with got married and she hasn’t seen her daughter in 3 years and has only met me once. 

3) she doesn’t want to move back to the states and have time apart to build up a financial income to sponsor me. 

 

We wanted to go down the K1 visa just to avoid this situation although the Cr1 sounds way more promising and the timeline will link up pretty good for us if it takes on average 12-13 months (even a tad bit longer we are okay with) which we hope as we come from low fraud countries. 

 

We’ve heard a few horror stories about the k1 visa and being rejected even if the co-sponsor meets the income requirements which scares us entirely!!! We need to be over there in 2022. 

 

Once we get married (just at a registry, nothing fancy) I could get my savings for $30+ grand signed into her name? That’s the only thing I currently have. I don’t own any houses and neither does she over in the states. We just have evidence such as joint bank accounts, credit cards, car insurance and a rental agreement. 

 

Is there any way that her mum doesn’t need to know that we are married while signing as our co-sponsor? I’m not sure if this could reject our chances of getting the CR1 visa and that would be insanely devastating as she will be working for her mum's company in 2022. 

 

Is there any other way around this than taking the risky k1 visa route? Considering we were going to do the k1 visa and just get married and not tell her mum until we plan an offical wedding. It’s all very stressful! If we tell her mum we got married we know she wouldn’t consider being our co-sponsor and we have no one else that could do it. 

 

I know this probably sounds a bit immature although different cultural backgrounds play a big role in this dilemma. 

 

We just want to know if there’s any other route we can take or any way of rejection if the mother doesn’t know we are married. 

 

Any advice would be highly appreciated. Thank you for your time reading this! 

I'm sorry but you are asking your partner's mother to take on an enormous financial contract for you guys that involves the American federal government. I would hope that just as a basic courtesy, you will be honest about the reasons behind why you are asking her to sign the I-864. Additionally, what would stop your partner's mother from Googling around and immediately discovering what the I-864 is for and putting 2 and 2 together? Lastly, separation time is to be expected if you are an international couple. If you don't want separation time, then your only option is to stay put in your current country. Or find someone local to date (which I know you're not actually wanting to do). In any case, you're both adults who decided to be together and to pursue legal immigration, so that means accepting the setbacks and consequences that come along with your decisions and this process.

Edited November 17, 2020 by mushroomspore

[igoyougoduke 1,674]

2 hours ago, Lauren&smith83 said:

I have a few questions regarding the K1 & CR1 visa. 

 

My girlfriend and I currently live together, have heaps of evidence etc. We will have known each other 2 years in June 2021. 

 

She currently studies in Aus and has no history of working in the states, therefore we’d be rejected. 

 

I understand we will need a co-sponsor. Now here’s the thing... we are so happy to get married and apply for this visa although 1) we don’t have a ring & I haven’t proposed 

2) my partners mum would freak if she found out with got married and she hasn’t seen her daughter in 3 years and has only met me once. 

3) she doesn’t want to move back to the states and have time apart to build up a financial income to sponsor me. 

 

We wanted to go down the K1 visa just to avoid this situation although the Cr1 sounds way more promising and the timeline will link up pretty good for us if it takes on average 12-13 months (even a tad bit longer we are okay with) which we hope as we come from low fraud countries. 

 

We’ve heard a few horror stories about the k1 visa and being rejected even if the co-sponsor meets the income requirements which scares us entirely!!! We need to be over there in 2022. 

 

Once we get married (just at a registry, nothing fancy) I could get my savings for $30+ grand signed into her name? That’s the only thing I currently have. I don’t own any houses and neither does she over in the states. We just have evidence such as joint bank accounts, credit cards, car insurance and a rental agreement. 

 

Is there any way that her mum doesn’t need to know that we are married while signing as our co-sponsor? I’m not sure if this could reject our chances of getting the CR1 visa and that would be insanely devastating as she will be working for her mum's company in 2022. 

 

Is there any other way around this than taking the risky k1 visa route? Considering we were going to do the k1 visa and just get married and not tell her mum until we plan an offical wedding. It’s all very stressful! If we tell her mum we got married we know she wouldn’t consider being our co-sponsor and we have no one else that could do it. 

 

I know this probably sounds a bit immature although different cultural backgrounds play a big role in this dilemma. 

 

We just want to know if there’s any other route we can take or any way of rejection if the mother doesn’t know we are married. 

 

Any advice would be highly appreciated. Thank you for your time reading this! 

Dont put the cart ahead of the horse.

[payxibka 10,047]

2 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

yes,   but who is the USC  ?   says they are both from low fraud countries and that's why i asked

 

USA is a low fraud country