change of address

[kate&eugine 0]

hi all,

anybody gone through this situation that can help?...

when we filed our k1 paperwork i was still living at my mom's house, so i used her address on all the forms. during the k1 process, i moved out, but still used my moms address so as not to slow down the process before the k1 was issued. we are plannign to get married in the next couple weeks and are now thinking about the paperwork for aos.

do you think it is ok to put our new address on all the forms for aos or should we continue to use my moms address for less confusion?

what are the pro's and cons for each?

also, i'm not sure when to apply for the ss#. eugine doesn't have his ead yet, and we'll be applying for it with aos. when is the right time to apply for the ss#: before we send of aos documents? at the same time? i've heard something about needing to get the ss# at least 2 wks before the 1-94 expires...hmmm?...

advice most welcome!

thanks!

kate

[Kanyiri 0]

Yes, use the new address, and he should apply for his SS# as soon as he can.

[kate&eugine 0]

how can he prove that he needs a ss# when he doesn't have a work permit?

kate

[Mand 1]

His SSN card will say "Not valid for work without DHS authorization". You don't need valid work authorization to get a SSN. It's form SS-5 and you can download it from the ssa.gov website HERE.

For your AOS, just use your new address as the mailing address.

If he gave your mother's address when coming through immigration he will need to file form AR-11 separately, and mail to the appropriate mailing address (different to the AOS filing address) to inform USCIS of his new address also.

Hope that helps

[Reba 2]

and you, the US sponsor/spouse will need to send in an I-865 change of address notice as well.

Yeah yeah I know, the instructions say its only if you've already got an I-864 affidavit of support in, but they also want it if you've done the one for the K visa as well (I forget that #...I-13???). My husband and I had to do both of those, even tho he moved *before* I got my visa, and we put his new address on the K3 visa applications and DS forms at the interview. When I crossed the border they told me I would need to do that because of the different addresses on all the forms.

[I'm Gone 60]

i'm not sure when to apply for the ss#. eugine doesn't have his ead yet, and we'll be applying for it with aos. when is the right time to apply for the ss#: before we send of aos documents? at the same time? i've heard something about needing to get the ss# at least 2 wks before the 1-94 expires...hmmm?...

SSA will not assign an SSN or issue a card if his status has expired or is within 14 days of expiring.

K-1 status is good for 90 days, so that only gives him 76 days to be assigned an SSN and issued a card. After that time he will need an EAD or I-551 card to establish authorization to work. Before that time the

I-94 showing K-1 status is the document that establishes authorization to work for SSN purposes.

The status/documents of all aliens must be verified before SSA will

assign an SSN and/or issue a card and the 14 day limit applies even if

he passes the 76th day while waiting for her status to be verified.

The SSA office will try to verify his status through the SAVE system

while he is in the office. If they can't, they will send a form G-845

to immigration for manual verification. This could delay the assigning

of an SSN and/or issuing a card for weeks and some times months.

If the SSA office does send the G-845, suggest that he go back to the

SSA office no more than once a week with your documents to (1) ask them

to check SAVE again (2) ask if they sent a G-845 (3) if yes, did it come

back (4) after 30 days ask if they have followed up on the G-845 by

calling or sending another mark "second request."

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203720

RM 00203.720 Verifying Immigration Documents

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203735

RM 00203.735 Requesting Online (Primary) Verification By SAVE

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After having waited at least 30 days and your local SSA office doesn't seem concerned about following up on the G-845 he can try contacting the SSA Regional Office (RO) responsible for your state:

http://www.ssa.gov/pressoffice/natlpocontacts.html

Refer them to this:

http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203740

RM 00203.740 Requesting Additional (Manual) Verification By DHS

B. PROCEDURE – HOW TO REQUEST MANUAL VERIFICATION

STEP 6

DHS should respond to SSA within 15 federal work days after receiving

the Form G-845. If DHS does not respond within 15 federal work days from

the receipt of the G-845 from SSA, follow-up with the DHS, USCIS

Immigration Status office. (Allow 15 days plus five additional federal

work days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from

DHS.

Follow local practice to follow-up with DHS. Some SSA offices have an

arrangement with the DHS, USCIS office to telephone for the follow-up

contact; other SSA offices send a copy of the original G-845 annotated

“second request.”) If the DHS response is still not received within 15

federal work days after the follow-up contact (if the follow-up is by

mail allow five additional federal work days of mail time for the G-845

to be received at and returned from DHS), make a second follow-up

contact. If the DHS response is not received within 15 federal workdays

(again, if the follow-up is by mail, allow five additional federal work

days of mail time for the G-845 to be received at and returned from

DHS), after two follow-ups, contact the RO. Also report to the RO any trend that shows a serious

deviation by DHS from the above time frames. The RO will consult with central office.

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Suggest that he take his birth certificate, passport and I-94 when going to apply. That should cover age, identity and work authorized alien status.

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203001

RM 00203.001 Evidence Required for an SSN Card

C. POLICY - EVIDENCE FOR AN ORIGINAL OR NEW SSN

1. Work Authorized SSN Card

An alien allowed to work must provide evidence establishing age, identity and work authorized lawful alien status.

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203020

RM 00203.020 Number of Documents Required for an SSN Card

2. Original (and new SSNs)

At least two documents are required and should be requested.

b. Aliens

A foreign born individual should always be requested to submit a foreign

birth certificate if one is in his/her possession or if one can be easily obtained. However, if a foreign birth certificate does not exist or cannot be obtained, accept alternative evidence of age.

The DHS document (e.g., I-551, I-94, or an employment authorization document) establishes lawful alien status or work authorization and either identity or age. If the DHS document is used to establish alien

status and identity, the alien must provide another document, such as a passport or birth certificate, to establish age.

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203200

RM 00203.200 Evidence of Identity for an SSN Card

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203500

RM 00203.500 Employment Authorization for Nonimmigrants

C. POLICY - EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZATION BY CLASS OF ADMISSION

The following policy applies to employment authorization by class of

admission.

1. Aliens Work Authorized Without Specific DHS Authorization

The following lists nonimmigrants, by alien classification, who are authorized to work in the U.S. without specific authorization from DHS. The alien's I-94 will not have the DHS employment authorization stamp

and the alien will not have an EAD.

K-1 Fiance(e) of U.S. citizen

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203450

RM 00203.450 Evidence of Nonimmigrant Status for an SSN Card

POLICY - GENERAL

Each alien lawfully admitted as a nonimmigrant should have an unexpired DHS document as evidence of his/her status. An DHS letter, receipt, copy of an application form or any document not listed in this subchapter is not acceptable evidence of alien status in lieu of the appropriate DHS

document.

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http://policy.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0100203030

RM 00203.030 Requesting Documents for an SSN Card

B. POLICY - FORM OF EVIDENCE

Evidence must be:

The original document, or a copy certified by the issuing agency or

custodian of the original record.

Uncertified photocopies and notarized copies are not acceptable.

A receipt from DHS showing the alien applied for the document is also

not acceptable. The applicant must present the actual document.