Who should pay for beneficiary's flight?

[Lemonslice 4,841]

15 minutes ago, Loren Y said:

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See you at the lounge / so many benefits.

[CrisBR 30]

45 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

See you at the lounge / so many benefits.

What type of  thread is this anyway? 

[Prizm123 1,086]

simplest answer is whoever has the money to do it.

i paid for my now wife for everything. she wasnt asked about anything, but we did it all online and just had the tickets and boarding passes emailed directly to her

 

i emailed copies of the cc and she already had a copy of my passport, but no one ever asked for any of that.

 

it might be different procedures for different countries/airlines etc though

[Mtu Mzuri 92]

On 11/13/2020 at 11:24 AM, APA said:

DS160 - Question "Person/entity paying for your trip"

 

Not sure what to make of this one. If my beneficiary pays for the trip to the US (should we be approved), I feel like it looks as if I'm not supporting him. If I pay for the trip, I feel like it looks like he's using me for the money. I don't know how they look at these answers or what the right thing to do is.

 

Several times while flying around Asia, I would try to check in online or at a kiosk and my reservation would be "frozen". I had to physically show the card and my passport to an agent before they would check me in. I asked about this a few times and they always said they had to physically see the card to verify it wasn't stolen. If I buy him a ticket and they do this, he won't be able to show them my card because he won't have it. One option is he pays for the trip with his card (so he can show it if asked) and I reimburse him when he arrives. He could explain this situation if asked but I'm not even sure how much this issue matters. Are we overthinking this?

Each relationship and situation is different. Also, there is no right or wrong answer. Just be truthful on your plan. For my case, I will purchase the ticket for my fiance. She isn't working. So, it is logical for me to purchase it.

[ram1009 43]

On 11/13/2020 at 9:24 AM, APA said:

DS160 - Question "Person/entity paying for your trip"

 

Not sure what to make of this one. If my beneficiary pays for the trip to the US (should we be approved), I feel like it looks as if I'm not supporting him. If I pay for the trip, I feel like it looks like he's using me for the money. I don't know how they look at these answers or what the right thing to do is.

 

Several times while flying around Asia, I would try to check in online or at a kiosk and my reservation would be "frozen". I had to physically show the card and my passport to an agent before they would check me in. I asked about this a few times and they always said they had to physically see the card to verify it wasn't stolen. If I buy him a ticket and they do this, he won't be able to show them my card because he won't have it. One option is he pays for the trip with his card (so he can show it if asked) and I reimburse him when he arrives. He could explain this situation if asked but I'm not even sure how much this issue matters. Are we overthinking this?

You probably are over thinking this but if it makes you feel better why not just split expenses?

[SneauxsMom 0]

On 11/14/2020 at 1:21 PM, PWB said:

Wow, if you are questioning paying for a ticket on some perceived moral issue then excuse me, are you ready to spend your life with this person.  Right now my fiancee is caught in the middle of the horrid flooding in Luzon Philippines and the USEM is still playing games with her visa.  Money for a ticket should never be the issue. 

Did you even read her (justified) query, or are you just itching to portray that your situation is worse because of a flood? FYI-the world is in a rage of a pandemic. Everyone is going through something. 

[APA 44]

9 hours ago, ram1009 said:

You probably are over thinking this but if it makes you feel better why not just split expenses?

 

I was just concerned about the question because they put it in there. It's not about affordability or fairness, it's about me wondering if they put that question in there to generate a red flag. As @Paul & Mary said earlier in this thread, the question is "For visas other than Ks it is a backdoor question about financial solvency." So I was right to question if it but it doesn't apply to K1 then it's no concern after all. 

[Punisher 40]

On 11/14/2020 at 2:24 PM, APA said:

 

You clearly either didn't read my post or didn't understand it. I suggest not commenting until you've done both as your reply really makes you look ignorant.

Not to defend OP but it is your responsibility to post/express yourself clearly. When part of your original statement includes the following sentence:

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If I pay for the trip, I feel like it looks like he's using me for the money.

then I think OP was justified to address that part. I will just add myself, that to me this sentence is sticking out like a sore thumb, as in a healthy relationship one would never "feel" that way, not even for a second.
 

Perhabs your intention was to solve credit card transaction issues, but you have convoluted your own post so please don't blame OP for pointing out what others decided to ignore.

Edited November 16, 2020 by Punisher

[APA 44]

9 minutes ago, Punisher said:

Not to defend OP but it makes you ignorant of your own words. It is your responsibility to post/express yourself clearly. When part of your original statement includes the following sentence:

then I think OP was justified to address that part. I will just add myself, that to me this sentence is sticking out like a sore thumb, as in a healthy relationship one would never "feel" that way, not even for a second.
 

Perhabs your intention was to solve credit card transaction issues, but you have convoluted your own post so please don't blame OP for pointing out what others decided to ignore.

I clearly stated that I was concerned about the appearance of the situation to immigration. I don't feel one way or the other about who pays for the flight - we are both independent and have split expenses since we met. The post was never about a moral dilemma or relationship advice. I said that I "feel" how it looks to immigration, not that I personally feel that way. And as I've said twice already, I was concerned about the question simply because they asked it: it seems like a loaded question meant to question financial ability and/or support issues (i.e. immigration saying "if you can't afford the ticket, it looks like you have no money and are planning to work illegally"), and this was confirmed by another poster. I was asking if there was a danger in answering the question the wrong way, not asking for a moral evaluation of my willingness or reluctance to pay for my fiance's flight. The issue was simply about avoiding red flags with the interview. In any case, the reply was inappropriate and missed the whole point of my post.

[skiddayoyo 5]

The point is to get him home with you. Who ever has the means to do so. It really doesn't matter.

[Punisher 40]

55 minutes ago, APA said:

I clearly stated that I was concerned about the appearance of the situation to immigration. I don't feel one way or the other about who pays for the flight - we are both independent and have split expenses since we met. The post was never about a moral dilemma or relationship advice. I said that I "feel" how it looks to immigration, not that I personally feel that way. And as I've said twice already, I was concerned about the question simply because they asked it: it seems like a loaded question meant to question financial ability and/or support issues (i.e. immigration saying "if you can't afford the ticket, it looks like you have no money and are planning to work illegally"), and this was confirmed by another poster. I was asking if there was a danger in answering the question the wrong way, not asking for a moral evaluation of my willingness or reluctance to pay for my fiance's flight. The issue was simply about avoiding red flags with the interview. In any case, the reply was inappropriate and missed the whole point of my post.

No, you have said what you have said in your opening post. I quoted particular line and it says what it says. No one needs to go through pages and pages of the thread in order to understand and "appropriately" comment on your original post. 

 

As I said, I'm not here to defend OP, but your original post is so vague that OP was justified to say what he/she said. It was appropriate as that's what OP thought after reading your words. People can and will comment based on what they read, not what is in your head. They don't have crystal ball. And this is a public forum, people are entitled to they opinions whether you like them or not. If you don't, ignore them (or work on your posting skills). You don't get to chose what kind of opinions you get in public forums. Don't like "moral evaluation" (again, given your vague original post) then hire a lawyer, by definition they are required not to have the moral backbone.

 

You commenting my own post clearly indicates you didn't understand the meaning of it. It was not towards you or your case but rather to explain to you why would someone think the way they thought, as it was based on what you posted as opposed to what you think, big difference.

 

By the way,  what other poster "confirmed" to you pertains to non-immigrant visas (like tourists etc) and even then it is weak evidence anyways. People are overthinking it. In relationship situations (K, marriage, family)  it does not apply and it amazes me that you even thought about it that it might. Contrary to what some people think, immigration rules are based on logic. But I digress.

Edited November 16, 2020 by Punisher