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Its not always good to get married if the K1 is denied here's why

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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Cuba
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Be Careful Here!

Now in many cases where a K-1 has been delayed, refused or denied at a US Consulate, lawyers have advised clients to simply get married and file and I-130. That is not good advice, unless the attorney also advises the petitioner to pay close attention to the K-1 that has been sent back to the Service Center from the consulate.

If a Service Center begins a revocation proceeding for that K-1 petition, a petitioner’s failure to respond will mean that DHS will revoke the approval of the petition. When that happens, the 212(a)(6)(c )(i) that is pending in our beneficiary file, will become hard finding of Misrepresentation, under 9 FAM 40.63 N10.1 (above).

A Rude Surprise at the Second Consular Interview

Our love birds have followed their lawyer’s advice and forgotten about the K-1 petition. A NOID (Notice of Intent to Deny) letter comes in the mail and petitioner calls his lawyer. The lawyer says,

“Don’t worry about it. She’s your wife now. The K-1 petition is irrelevant.”

The lovebirds have taken the plunge and married. The petitioner has made another costly visit to the foreign country; bought another round trip airplane ticket, and maybe he has even sprung for a costly wedding ceremony.

An I-130 Petition for his new bride has been filed. And it is approved by the DHS Service Center. What will happen when his new wife appears at the US Consulate for her next interview?

Because the petitioner did not respond to the K-1 revocation notice, the beneficiary has a 212(a)(6)(c )(i) finding on her record. Even if the petition for her is approved, she is permanently barred from entering the US, unless she can obtain a waiver to that ground of inadmissibility.

My Timeline

1/17/2007-Married

USCIS

3/09/2007-I130 sent

3/15/2007-USCIS recived I130

3/21/2007-NOA1 approved

3/22/2007-NOA2 approved Aproved in 7days

NVC

4/09/2007-NVC Case # assigned

4/16/2007-DS3032 and AOS Bill generated

4/18/2007-I sent DS3032 by email (shortcut)

4/20/2007-NVC replied re: DS3032 and DS230 bill generated

4/23/2007-Sent AOS Bill payment overnight (james Shortcuts)

4/24/2007- NVC recived AOS $70 payment

4/30/2007- Recived IV Fee bill

4/30/2007- Payed IV Fee bill $ 380.00

5/01/2007- AOS Generated

5/01/2007- NVC recived IV Fee Bill Payment.

5/07/2007- DS-230 Generated.

5/10/2007- Recived AOS in mail

5/14/2007- Sent AOS Overnight

5/17/2007- Recived DS-230

5/17/2007- Sents DS-230 Overnight Didnt use Shortcut because coversheet changed

5/21/2007- NVC recives DS-230

5/24/2007- Called NVC-RFE for affidavit sent

5/31/2007- Recived RFE in mail

5/31/2007- Responded to RFE

5/31/2007- RFE checklist sent re:DS230 NVC Changed Processing for HAV have to send more documents

6/01/2007- NVC recived my response to RFE.

6/08/2007- Recived Checklist Waiting on Police Certificate can't do anything till that comes.

6/19/2007- Sent Response to RFE.

7/02/2007- Case Complet at NVC waiting for appointment

8/16/2007- Appointment Set.

8/17/2007- Case sent to Havana (Also our 7th month anneversary Good Day! Good Day!)

US Intrest Section In Havana

9/13/2007- Interview in Havana-Visa approved !

9/17/2007- Started Carta Blanca.

10/12/2007- Carta Blanca recived. Went to go buy plan ticket :)

10/17/2007- WELCOME TO MIAMI He's finally here !

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Is this a quote from something or is this your experience? If it's a quote, is there a link?

I-129F/K1

1-12-07 mailed to CSC

1-22-07 DHS cashes the I-129F check

1-23-07 NOA1 Notice Date

1-26-07 NOA1 arrives in the post

4-25-07 Touched!

4-26-07 Touched again!

5-3-07 NOA2!!! Two approval emails received at 11:36am

5-10-07 Arrived at NVC/5-14-07 Left NVC - London-bound!

5-17-07??? London receives?

5-20-07 Packet 3 mailed

5-26-07 Packet 3 received

5-29-07 Packet 3 returned, few days later than planned due to bank holiday weekend

6-06-07 Medical in London (called to schedule on May 29)

6-11-07 "Medical in file" at Embassy

6-14-07 Resent packet 3 to Embassy after hearing nothing about first try

6-22-07 DOS says "applicant now eligible for interview," ie: they enter p3 into their system

6-25-07 DOS says interview date is August 21

6-28-07 Help from our congressional representative gives us new interview date: July 6

7-06-07 Interview at 9:00 am at the London Embassy - Approved.

7-16-07 Visa delivered after 'security checks' completed

I-129F approved in 111 days; Interview 174 days from filing

Handy numbers:

NVC: (603) 334-0700 - press 1, 5; US State Department: (202) 663-1225 - press 1, 0

*Be afraid or be informed - the choice is yours.*

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: United Kingdom
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Ah - seems like it was another post: http://www.visajourney.com/forums/index.ph...t&p=1009676

Note to the masses: it's always better to source everything you bring into a VJ thread if it's information received elsewhere. Otherwise it can be confusing and people won't know how to weigh the information. :)

I-129F/K1

1-12-07 mailed to CSC

1-22-07 DHS cashes the I-129F check

1-23-07 NOA1 Notice Date

1-26-07 NOA1 arrives in the post

4-25-07 Touched!

4-26-07 Touched again!

5-3-07 NOA2!!! Two approval emails received at 11:36am

5-10-07 Arrived at NVC/5-14-07 Left NVC - London-bound!

5-17-07??? London receives?

5-20-07 Packet 3 mailed

5-26-07 Packet 3 received

5-29-07 Packet 3 returned, few days later than planned due to bank holiday weekend

6-06-07 Medical in London (called to schedule on May 29)

6-11-07 "Medical in file" at Embassy

6-14-07 Resent packet 3 to Embassy after hearing nothing about first try

6-22-07 DOS says "applicant now eligible for interview," ie: they enter p3 into their system

6-25-07 DOS says interview date is August 21

6-28-07 Help from our congressional representative gives us new interview date: July 6

7-06-07 Interview at 9:00 am at the London Embassy - Approved.

7-16-07 Visa delivered after 'security checks' completed

I-129F approved in 111 days; Interview 174 days from filing

Handy numbers:

NVC: (603) 334-0700 - press 1, 5; US State Department: (202) 663-1225 - press 1, 0

*Be afraid or be informed - the choice is yours.*

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Not only that, but it looks better to cite the source instead of passing it off as your own information.

Looks like the original post was paraphrased from this

http://www.ilw.com/articles/2006,0323-ellis.shtm

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: China
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Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Cuba
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When i copyed and pasted i thought i did put in the quotes but then when i went to check the post it turns out i didnt but by that time it was to late to edit the post sorry. but yea i put it as a post like this because its something thats very importent so i figured that i should put it in a post of its own. that way someone could see it better

My Timeline

1/17/2007-Married

USCIS

3/09/2007-I130 sent

3/15/2007-USCIS recived I130

3/21/2007-NOA1 approved

3/22/2007-NOA2 approved Aproved in 7days

NVC

4/09/2007-NVC Case # assigned

4/16/2007-DS3032 and AOS Bill generated

4/18/2007-I sent DS3032 by email (shortcut)

4/20/2007-NVC replied re: DS3032 and DS230 bill generated

4/23/2007-Sent AOS Bill payment overnight (james Shortcuts)

4/24/2007- NVC recived AOS $70 payment

4/30/2007- Recived IV Fee bill

4/30/2007- Payed IV Fee bill $ 380.00

5/01/2007- AOS Generated

5/01/2007- NVC recived IV Fee Bill Payment.

5/07/2007- DS-230 Generated.

5/10/2007- Recived AOS in mail

5/14/2007- Sent AOS Overnight

5/17/2007- Recived DS-230

5/17/2007- Sents DS-230 Overnight Didnt use Shortcut because coversheet changed

5/21/2007- NVC recives DS-230

5/24/2007- Called NVC-RFE for affidavit sent

5/31/2007- Recived RFE in mail

5/31/2007- Responded to RFE

5/31/2007- RFE checklist sent re:DS230 NVC Changed Processing for HAV have to send more documents

6/01/2007- NVC recived my response to RFE.

6/08/2007- Recived Checklist Waiting on Police Certificate can't do anything till that comes.

6/19/2007- Sent Response to RFE.

7/02/2007- Case Complet at NVC waiting for appointment

8/16/2007- Appointment Set.

8/17/2007- Case sent to Havana (Also our 7th month anneversary Good Day! Good Day!)

US Intrest Section In Havana

9/13/2007- Interview in Havana-Visa approved !

9/17/2007- Started Carta Blanca.

10/12/2007- Carta Blanca recived. Went to go buy plan ticket :)

10/17/2007- WELCOME TO MIAMI He's finally here !

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Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Morocco
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The problem is that a returned petition isn't as common, and many lawyers, yes even immigration lawyers, have no clue how to handle these returned petitions. Its really sad, but if a NOIR was never addressed then you get a fraud marker on your name. The only way to clear it at that point is to appeal, which is time consumming, and has a time limitation if I remember correctly. Whats really sad is the amount of very valid marriages that have no idea what the proper procedure is in these situations, and they trust these dumb "A" lawyers.

BTW, we had a returned petition. I was lost, and no one here on VJ had any valid advice, just a bunch of blah blah blah. I finally found 1 person that was going through this. Then we started to discover more and more. We now have a group formed, mostly cases from Morocco. So far we have about 5 people who have fought the NOIR and won, me included. All I can say is "up yours Casa". My husband has been here now for 7 months, and we have never been so happy. Too bad these consulates haven't figured out better ways to spot fraud marriages. How many valid marriages have been broken from this process? It's heart breaking.

'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - Chardonnay in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride'

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Filed: K-3 Visa Country: Russia
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Visa in Hand:

Congratulations on your victory and the happy life you are now having with your husband here in the States!

5-15-2002 Met, by chance, while I traveled on business

3-15-2005 I-129F
9-18-2005 Visa in hand
11-23-2005 She arrives in USA
1-18-2006 She returns to Russia, engaged but not married

11-10-2006 We got married!

2-12-2007 I-130 sent by Express mail to NSC
2-26-2007 I-129F sent by Express mail to Chicago lock box
6-25-2007 Both NOA2s in hand; notice date 6-15-2007
9-17-2007 K3 visa in hand
11-12-2007 POE Atlanta

8-14-2008 AOS packet sent
9-13-2008 biometrics
1-30-2009 AOS interview
2-12-2009 10-yr Green Card arrives in mail

2-11-2014 US Citizenship ceremony

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