All Things Coronavirus (Part 2)

[Dashinka 24,428]

8 hours ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

Shouldn't the guy holding the rope be masked?

[laylalex 7,284]

He's outdoors and socially distanced so... no?

[yuna628 9,665]

I had to take my first COVID test this week, which was easier said than done. The thing is there is lots of ways to get the vaccine in this town, but testing is either non-existent, or makes one jump through some hoops. Anyway I called a place that said they do walk-ins, and as my husband told me it only takes like 30 seconds of time I figured this would be easy - especially since I wasn't feeling great and just wanted to go to bed. 2 HOURS later, I'm still sitting there, and I ask what is going on? I get a lot of attitude from the desk like my polite asking was being a major Karen of the month, and they're doing me a favor. I leave, never successfully getting a test. Want one from the health department? Need a doctor's note which I don't have, even though they've told me to get one 'just in case'. Pharmacy? Nah come back another day or they don't offer the one the doctor wants. Finally, find a location an hour's drive away, where I have to administer the test myself. Now, I think I'm competent and don't mind doing it myself, but how does one know if one has done it accurately if one is not medically trained? Anyway they are all so kind to me, and within 24hrs I have an obvious NEGATIVE result (which of course they warn actually might not mean much but if it makes my doctor feel better... then?). I begin to understand why only a few people tested positive this week in this county, because they are so hard to obtain, but positive hits from people crowding the hospital being very sick is on the rise.

 

I am confident I do not have COVID before I ever took the test (the doctor refused to see me until I would get it even though they thought it UNLIKELY I HAD IT ANYWAY), and now begins a long hassle of running all these crazy tests of four tubes of blood and five tubes of samples I have to give for weirder tests and questions about whether I have eaten any foodstuffs that may have been recalled recently (GUYS. I THINK THEY THINK I HAVE 'MONSTERS INSIDE ME' :X). I almost thought I had found the culprit but the sell by date was wrong. At any rate do go to the ER if I get worse while waiting...and waiting...and waiting.. but I am told that the ER is so full they had to open up a 'holding clinic', to put patients they have no room to admit on a waiting list.

Edited July 29, 2021 by yuna628

[Dashinka 24,428]

56 minutes ago, laylalex said:

He's outdoors and socially distanced so... no?

Why should that matter?  

[laylalex 7,284]

Because current guidance is that even with the upticks in case rates in many parts of the country, that vaccinated people (I assume a guy in a white coat throwing out a life preserver label "vaccines" is meant to represent someone who has been vaccinated -- this does not require a leap of logic) outdoors do not need to wear a mask or socially distance. 

 

Also -- are we really bickering over the content of a political cartoon?

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187

 

Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people.

 

https://www.texastribune.org/2021/07/21/coronavirus-texas-vaccinated-deaths/

 

Edited July 29, 2021 by Nature Boy 2.0

[beloved_dingo 1,976]

One of my step-mom's friends passed away from COVID two weeks ago. She tested positive on July 7th and died on July 17th. Within 24 hours of testing positive, her oxygen level was below 70 and she was hospitalized. She was 64 and otherwise in good health, but she adamantly refused to get vaccinated. Now her husband, 3 kids, and multiple grandkids are reeling from the loss. Her husband was vaccinated and he had a very mild case of COVID while she was sick. Now he is practically begging people he knows to get vaccinated. This is in rural Alabama so the rate of vaccination there is very low. 

 

 

[Dashinka 24,428]

1 hour ago, laylalex said:

Because current guidance is that even with the upticks in case rates in many parts of the country, that vaccinated people (I assume a guy in a white coat throwing out a life preserver label "vaccines" is meant to represent someone who has been vaccinated -- this does not require a leap of logic) outdoors do not need to wear a mask or socially distance. 

 

Also -- are we really bickering over the content of a political cartoon?

 

No, just commenting on some methods of deflection.  Btw, where is the science behind the new CDC recommendation?  

Edited July 29, 2021 by Dashinka

[laylalex 7,284]

7 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

No, just commenting on some methods of deflection.  Btw, where is the science behind the new CDC recommendation?  

I'm not a scientist and I don't play one on the internet. Perhaps either a scientist or someone who likes to play one on the internet can help.  

[Dashinka 24,428]

3 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I'm not a scientist and I don't play one on the internet. Perhaps either a scientist or someone who likes to play one on the internet can help.  

Not sure there are any around.

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

No, just commenting on some methods of deflection.  Btw, where is the science behind the new CDC recommendation?  

I like Layla, she is a very smart cookie. I would ask her about cooking tips, how to choose a scotch and how to score free online video services.  I don't expect her let me know what the CDC Science is or should be.  

Edited July 29, 2021 by Crtcl Rice Theory

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

5 hours ago, yuna628 said:

I had to take my first COVID test this week, which was easier said than done. The thing is there is lots of ways to get the vaccine in this town, but testing is either non-existent, or makes one jump through some hoops. Anyway I called a place that said they do walk-ins, and as my husband told me it only takes like 30 seconds of time I figured this would be easy - especially since I wasn't feeling great and just wanted to go to bed. 2 HOURS later, I'm still sitting there, and I ask what is going on? I get a lot of attitude from the desk like my polite asking was being a major Karen of the month, and they're doing me a favor. I leave, never successfully getting a test. Want one from the health department? Need a doctor's note which I don't have, even though they've told me to get one 'just in case'. Pharmacy? Nah come back another day or they don't offer the one the doctor wants. Finally, find a location an hour's drive away, where I have to administer the test myself. Now, I think I'm competent and don't mind doing it myself, but how does one know if one has done it accurately if one is not medically trained? Anyway they are all so kind to me, and within 24hrs I have an obvious NEGATIVE result (which of course they warn actually might not mean much but if it makes my doctor feel better... then?). I begin to understand why only a few people tested positive this week in this county, because they are so hard to obtain, but positive hits from people crowding the hospital being very sick is on the rise.

 

I am confident I do not have COVID before I ever took the test (the doctor refused to see me until I would get it even though they thought it UNLIKELY I HAD IT ANYWAY), and now begins a long hassle of running all these crazy tests of four tubes of blood and five tubes of samples I have to give for weirder tests and questions about whether I have eaten any foodstuffs that may have been recalled recently (GUYS. I THINK THEY THINK I HAVE 'MONSTERS INSIDE ME' :X). I almost thought I had found the culprit but the sell by date was wrong. At any rate do go to the ER if I get worse while waiting...and waiting...and waiting.. but I am told that the ER is so full they had to open up a 'holding clinic', to put patients they have no room to admit on a waiting list.

I have not seen a shortage of tests in our neck of the woods.  We are going to take our second trip to Canada next week and should be able to walk into the local clinic and get a test we can share on ArriveCan within 24 hours.  I have also been to the doctor several times and not been hammered about being tested.  My first reaction is .."What are you afraid of Doc? Why are you not vaccinated? If you don't believe that a vaccine and mask and the screening at the door takes care of the risk, why should I trust your medical judgement?  Furthermore, why all the tests? Do you have a quota?

[yuna628 9,665]

2 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

I have not seen a shortage of tests in our neck of the woods.  We are going to take our second trip to Canada next week and should be able to walk into the local clinic and get a test we can share on ArriveCan within 24 hours.  I have also been to the doctor several times and not been hammered about being tested.  My first reaction is .."What are you afraid of Doc? Why are you not vaccinated? If you don't believe that a vaccine and mask and the screening at the door takes care of the risk, why should I trust your medical judgement?  Furthermore, why all the tests? Do you have a quota?

Well the symptoms I have, a few might be classed as 'rare but possible' with COVID, but usually with a fever. I have no fever or cough, but I do have quite a few other problems.. which is why they now want to test a bunch of things. I feel like they think I ate or drank something contaminated. There's been a few outbreaks of recalled food stuffs which has made some quite sick. Like recalled chicken were offered to the public at restaurants and hospitals. Some things have to be reported, so I guess it's why they are being thorough. I did find it all rather ridiculous though, both I and the doctor are vaccinated.

[Ban Hammer 13,278]

1 hour ago, laylalex said:

I'm not a scientist and I don't play one on the internet. Perhaps either a scientist or someone who likes to play one on the internet can help.  

[Ban Hammer 13,278]

24 minutes ago, Crtcl Rice Theory said:

I like Layla, she is a very smart cookie. I would ask her about cooking tips, how to choose a scotch and how to score free online video services. 

the latter two she asks lord piledriver for the answers...........