All Things Coronavirus (Part 2)

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

1 hour ago, InhaleExhale said:

Yep, unfortunately. Labs were using up to 45 (!) cycles and it has been established that 35 and above results in a 97% chance of a false positive. Yet, those numbers have been used for the case counts. It's unscientific madness.

Ultimately, this PCR test is great for forensic purposes but not for diagnosing an active viral infection. As Karry Mullis said, you can find anything with it if you amplify long enough.

Even the manuals of those tests included that whatever is being detected could also be Influenza A or B. 

There is no approved test I am aware of that is able to diagnose an active infection with Sars-Cov2. I welcome any info of its existence.

And to add to the obfuscation, the CDC decided that after people started getting the vaccine, they needed to lower the cycle count so that people weren't getting "infected" as much.  Total manipulation of the data.  But some refuse to open their eyes to see it.

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[InhaleExhale 28]

9 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

And to add to the obfuscation, the CDC decided that after people started getting the vaccine, they needed to lower the cycle count so that people weren't getting "infected" as much.  Total manipulation of the data.  But some refuse to open their eyes to see it.

Sadly yes. I believe it's because they don't research, so they don't know and may not want to know.

Also the CDC decided to stop counting the breakthrough cases 2 months ago. The already instable and inaccurate data is getting even muddier.

Despite the halt on reporting the breakthroughs there are many reports indicating up to 60% of Covid19 cases admitted to the hospitals occurred in people who had received both doses of the injections. This is not surprising at all though given that the AAR is between 0.88% and just over 1%, yet most people believe it is 95%.

Edited July 26, 2021 by InhaleExhale

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

43 minutes ago, InhaleExhale said:

Sadly yes. I believe it's because they don't research, so they don't know and may not want to know.

Also the CDC decided to stop counting the breakthrough cases 2 months ago. The already instable and inaccurate data is getting even muddier.

Despite the halt on reporting the breakthroughs there are many reports indicating up to 60% of Covid19 cases admitted to the hospitals occurred in people who had received both doses of the injections. This is not surprising at all though given that the AAR is between 0.88% and just over 1%, yet most people believe it is 95%.

Interesting... where are you getting that 0.88~1% estimate?

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so to summarize

1) China released a deadly biological weapon that killed millions

2) Trump knew this but didn't do anything; 3) It's no worse than a cold; 4) Trump is a genius for inventing the vaccine; 5) The Vaccine is dangerous and you should not touch it

[usaphp 2]

Israeli People Committee’s Report Find Catastrophic Side Effects Of Pfizer Vaccine To Every System In Human Body

https://greatgameindia.com/israel-report-pfizer-vaccine-side-effects/

 

Most protective immunity is natural immunity

 

Edited July 26, 2021 by usaphp

[InhaleExhale 28]

37 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

Interesting... where are you getting that 0.88~1% estimate?

I get it from the data of the clinical trials Pfizer and Moderna used for their EUA application with the FDA.

For example Pfizer promoted an (primary endpoint of) efficacy of 95% in their document (https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download). If you read how they came to that number (e.g. page 24) you will see it was determined considering only 170 (162 out of control group and 8 out of injected group) out of about 35,000 total candidates.

Their data is showing that:

- out of 17,411 people in the injected group 8 people experienced symptoms associated with Covid19 AND tested positive (using an unapproved test)

and

- out of 17,511 people in the control group 162 people experienced symptoms associated with Covid19 AND tested positive (using an unapproved test).

 

To get the AAR (absolute risk reduction) we need to consider ALL trial participants: 17,411 candidates in the injected group and 17,511 in the control group.
- 8 out of 17,411 injected candidates equals 0.046% of 17,411
- 162 out of 17,511 placebo candidates equals 0.925% of 17,511

 

Determining the difference between the two results:

0.925-0.046=0.879

The AAR for the Pfizer injection is 0.879% ~ 0.88%.

 

The difference of experiencing any Covid19 associated symptoms between the 2 groups is so small that it becomes statistically insignificant.

Despite that fact they keep advertising a 95% "efficacy" which is simply false according to their own documents. The 95% is being promoted as if there is a 95% less chance for you to get Covid19 if you agree to be injected. But there is only a 0.88% less chance as we can see from their own trial data.

 

When I last calculated the same according to the Moderna data I got an AAR of 1.14%.

 

There is also medical literature about this:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996517/?fbclid=IwAR0Hrsl9wtGPtUwtpfubQ6c0TY69VGeyK_pMcie95H2TY4YOyH--g3e0E1s

"Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna reported the relative risk reduction of their vaccines, but the manufacturers did not report a corresponding absolute risk reduction, which “appears to be less than 1%"

Here is another article from the lancet: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00069-0/fulltext?fbclid=IwAR1_lg0WMIT0hkbQmWdIyg29jqwgv8M5VDDX7MARKwP9Tpz_SIw3n2TQnvk

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1 hour ago, InhaleExhale said:

I get it from the data of the clinical trials Pfizer and Moderna used for their EUA application with the FDA.

For example Pfizer promoted an (primary endpoint of) efficacy of 95% in their document (https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download). If you read how they came to that number (e.g. page 24) you will see it was determined considering only 170 (162 out of control group and 8 out of injected group) out of about 35,000 total candidates.

Their data is showing that:

- out of 17,411 people in the injected group 8 people experienced symptoms associated with Covid19 AND tested positive (using an unapproved test)

and

- out of 17,511 people in the control group 162 people experienced symptoms associated with Covid19 AND tested positive (using an unapproved test).

 

To get the AAR (absolute risk reduction) we need to consider ALL trial participants: 17,411 candidates in the injected group and 17,511 in the control group.
- 8 out of 17,411 injected candidates equals 0.046% of 17,411
- 162 out of 17,511 placebo candidates equals 0.925% of 17,511

 

Determining the difference between the two results:

0.925-0.046=0.879

The AAR for the Pfizer injection is 0.879% ~ 0.88%.

 

The difference of experiencing any Covid19 associated symptoms between the 2 groups is so small that it becomes statistically insignificant.

Despite that fact they keep advertising a 95% "efficacy" which is simply false according to their own documents. The 95% is being promoted as if there is a 95% less chance for you to get Covid19 if you agree to be injected. But there is only a 0.88% less chance as we can see from their own trial data.

 

When I last calculated the same according to the Moderna data I got an AAR of 1.14%.

 

There is also medical literature about this:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7996517/?fbclid=IwAR0Hrsl9wtGPtUwtpfubQ6c0TY69VGeyK_pMcie95H2TY4YOyH--g3e0E1s

"Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna reported the relative risk reduction of their vaccines, but the manufacturers did not report a corresponding absolute risk reduction, which “appears to be less than 1%"

Here is another article from the lancet: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanmic/article/PIIS2666-5247(21)00069-0/fulltext?fbclid=IwAR1_lg0WMIT0hkbQmWdIyg29jqwgv8M5VDDX7MARKwP9Tpz_SIw3n2TQnvk

I was about to say the same thing 

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

1 hour ago, InhaleExhale said:

I get it from the data of the clinical trials Pfizer and Moderna used for their EUA application with the FDA.

 

Thank you very much for sharing this valuable info!

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

52 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I was about to say the same thing 

Not without about 1,132 misspellings, you weren't.

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[InhaleExhale 28]

8 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

Thank you very much for sharing this valuable info!

You are very welcome and thank you for asking  

[TBoneTX 45,077]

9 hours ago, LIBrty4all said:

Not without about 1,132 misspellings, you weren't.

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6 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Doant' insullt uthur memburs aruond hear

But at least his butts been wiped.

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Covid-19 Updates: C.D.C. to Recommend Some Vaccinated People Wear Masks Indoors Again

The new guidance would mark a sharp turnabout from the agency’s position since May that vaccinated people do not need to wear masks in most indoor spaces. Mexican workers cross U.S. border for vaccination in a program that is meant to remedy the kind of disparity in vaccine access that economists have warned could keep a global economic rebound out of reach.

 

Coronavirus in the U.S.: Latest Map and Case Count https://nyti.ms/39jvJEY