All Things Coronavirus (Part 2)

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You can be detained and quarantined. https://ipolitics.ca/2021/01/29/migrant-workers-and-other-essential-travellers-wont-have-to-pay-to-quarantine/

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3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Can a country keep a citizen from re-entering?  Worst case scenario, the airline does not allow her to board, so she rents a car and heads North on I35, can they keep a Canadian citizen from entering at a land crossing?  Overall, I would expect the same treatment by the government.

If you return to Canada, you must quarantine for two weeks and be asymptomatic. Non residents or non citizens are only admitted if direct family.  The quarantine is non negotiable and involves a daily checkin.  So no,  they cannot keep a resident or citizen from returning. 

 

We picked a nice lodge in a mountains and settled in with delivered groceries.

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Just now, CanAm1980 said:

If you return to Canada, you must quarantine for two weeks and be symptomatic. Non residents or non citizens are only admitted if direct family.  The quarantine is non negotiable and involves a daily checkin.  So no,  they cannot keep a resident or citizen from returning. 

Thanks, so it goes back to my original question, so they quarantined this woman until she tested negative with the proper test which was her fault, but the Canadian government would not disclose her location to her family.  That seems a little extreme as even family of prisoners know what prison their incarcerated family member is being held in. 

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9 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

If you return to Canada, you must quarantine for two weeks and be asymptomatic. Non residents or non citizens are only admitted if direct family.  The quarantine is non negotiable and involves a daily checkin.  So no,  they cannot keep a resident or citizen from returning. 

 

We picked a nice lodge in a mountains and settled in with delivered groceries.

Late breaking, cbsa is now requiring testing . I can't tell if the quarantine is shortened.

 

Entering 🇨🇦 by land? You will soon need to show the #CBSA officer proof of a valid #COVID19 molecular test taken 72 hours before your scheduled arrival: https://t.co/3I0NISOTVV

Stay tuned for more details. https://t.co/TqLXUR0bDe

 

 

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Sir Tom Moore passed away today. The WWII veteran was aged 100, and early on during the pandemic managed to raise £38 million for the NHS. He became sort of a celebrity after that, but apparently not enough for people to care about his well-being as British Airways paid to send him to Barbados while during the lockdowns and at great risk to his health. He fell ill soon after. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/02/captain-sir-tom-moore-dies-at-100-after-testing-positive-for-covid Wish people would have some respect and protect the elderly. 

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58 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Thanks, so it goes back to my original question, so they quarantined this woman until she tested negative with the proper test which was her fault, but the Canadian government would not disclose her location to her family.  That seems a little extreme as even family of prisoners know what prison their incarcerated family member is being held in. 

It might have a lot to do with what was done or said at the frontier.  Coming the other way, a few years ago a young lady was jogging on the beach, didn't know she was running on US territory and was tackled arrested and hauled 90 miles away to the ice facility. It was two weeks before her family found her.

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20 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Sir Tom Moore passed away today. The WWII veteran was aged 100, and early on during the pandemic managed to raise £38 million for the NHS. He became sort of a celebrity after that, but apparently not enough for people to care about his well-being as British Airways paid to send him to Barbados while during the lockdowns and at great risk to his health. He fell ill soon after. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/02/captain-sir-tom-moore-dies-at-100-after-testing-positive-for-covid Wish people would have some respect and protect the elderly. 

One of the more touching stories of last year.

 

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9 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

It might have a lot to do with what was done or said at the frontier.  Coming the other way, a few years ago a young lady was jogging on the beach, didn't know she was running on US territory and was tackled arrested and hauled 90 miles away to the ice facility. It was two weeks before her family found her.

So Canadian BSA is just as bad as the US CBP?

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He was in Hospital with Pneumonia.

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2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

So Canadian BSA is just as bad as the US CBP?

If you want to get in deep, try bringing a lemon into the states, those USDA agents are hardcore.

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45 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

If you want to get in deep, try bringing a lemon into the states, those USDA agents are hardcore.

Same going the other way.  Forgot I had a banana sitting on the seat entering Canada one time, felt like I was trying to traffic in serious drugs.

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Just now, Dashinka said:

Same going the other way.  Forgot I had a banana sitting on the seat entering Canada one time, felt like I was trying to traffic in serious drugs.

Coming into California from the north they have an ag station checking for apple maggot and citrus, I call it California customs, they never accept my passport.

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4 hours ago, yuna628 said:

Sir Tom Moore passed away today. The WWII veteran was aged 100, and early on during the pandemic managed to raise £38 million for the NHS. He became sort of a celebrity after that, but apparently not enough for people to care about his well-being as British Airways paid to send him to Barbados while during the lockdowns and at great risk to his health. He fell ill soon after. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/02/captain-sir-tom-moore-dies-at-100-after-testing-positive-for-covid Wish people would have some respect and protect the elderly. 

Was the Barbados trip and his eventually testing positive related?

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/captain-sir-tom-moore-tested-23431517

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5 hours ago, Dashinka said:

So Canadian BSA is just as bad as the US CBP?

 

   After several years of dealing with both, I would say US CBP is generally more difficult to deal with, and certainly more attitude in general, but I've seen people end up on the wrong side of both. Safe to say if you go out of your way to test them and you get the wrong person, I don't think it matters which side you are dealing with, you'll lose!

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1.  No side effects here from Moderna #2.  Nursing staff highly impressed to meet such a highly developed upper primate.

 

2.  Does Canada/do other countries still insist on a negative test + quarantine if someone has gotten both vaccinations?  If so, both the official response would seem counterintuitive and the trouble taken to get both shots would seem worthless.