All Things Coronavirus (Part 2)

[Neonred 3,562]

11 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Vaccine effectiveness against hospitalization drops, CDC says

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-updates/coronavirus-delta-variant-latest-news/?id=79720727#79723614

 

Same story from cnn

 

Covid-19 vaccine effectiveness against severe disease has not dropped much, CDC says

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/30/health/booster-shots-acip-discussion/index.html

 

 

We were lobstering down in the Keys this past weekend with my daughter and son in law and a couple of their friends.  One of their friends is an ER doc near St. Louis MO.  Naturally we talked about Covid cases at his hospital. 

 

Yes, they are nearing capacity, BUT that is not based on beds (they still have enough) but due to not enough staff.  

 

Roughly 90% of Covid cases they admit are unvaccinated people, and almost all of those are obese or have other underlying severe conditions.

 

If you are unvaccinated and obese you are screwed.

[TBoneTX 45,288]

(Facepalm)

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Wait.  So now Moderna is twice as good as Pfizer?

JAZZ SHAW Aug 31, 2021 2:31 PM ET

 

[...] Yet another study has been completed on the efficacy of the various vaccines.  This one took place at a large hospital system in Belgium and the metric they looked at was the relative levels of antibodies found in patients after receiving each of the vaccines.  When they compared Pfizer and Moderna, it turns out that the race wasn't even close.  Patients receiving the Moderna vaccine had literally more than twice as many antibodies as those who received the two doses of Pfizer.  [...]

 

https://hotair.com/jazz-shaw/2021/08/31/wait-so-now-moderna-is-twice-as-good-as-pfizer-n412766  

Edited September 1, 2021 by TBoneTX

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

10 hours ago, Dashinka said:

No one is suggesting anyone go out an have a Covid19 party, but with all the current talk of vaccine cards/passports, etc., why are those that recovered not counted among those protected?

 

Having SARS-CoV-2 once confers much greater immunity than a vaccine—but vaccination remains vital

Why?  Because that doesn't sell vaccines and make money for those at the top.

Natural immunity is something like 13X more effective than the drug, yet we NEED the drug as a whole.  And if you notice, the countries with the highest rates of "vaccination" also happen to have the highest number of cases.  

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

4 hours ago, Neonred said:

Roughly 90% of Covid cases they admit are unvaccinated people, and almost all of those are obese or have other underlying severe conditions.

 

If you are unvaccinated and obese you are screwed.

If you are vaccinated and obese, you are likely screwed as well.  But since the CDC stopped tracking breakthru cases, we will never know how many actually get the 'vid.

 

Also, if you are alive, you will most likely get covid.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

9 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

Why?  Because that doesn't sell vaccines and make money for those at the top.

Natural immunity is something like 13X more effective than the drug, yet we NEED the drug as a whole.  And if you notice, the countries with the highest rates of "vaccination" also happen to have the highest number of cases.  

Maybe not 13X...

 

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In Israel, vaccinated individuals had 27 times higher risk of symptomatic COVID infection compared to those with natural immunity from prior COVID disease [95%CI:13-57, adjusted for time of vaccine/disease]. No COVID deaths in either group.

 

https://fee.org/articles/harvard-epidemiologist-says-the-case-for-covid-vaccine-passports-was-just-demolished/

[TBoneTX 45,288]

This whole virus situation has been hosed from the start, in almost every way -- politicization of every aspect of it, combined with fearmonging, so that no one knows what the dickens to think or believe.  A fine kettle of fish.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

I agree.  What boggles my mind are the people that fall for it.  The true sheeple.

Edited September 1, 2021 by LIBrty4all

[TBoneTX 45,288]

Nobody knows exactly WHAT to fall for, or to what degree.

[Dashinka 24,497]

5 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

This whole virus situation has been hosed from the start, in almost every way -- politicization of every aspect of it, combined with fearmonging, so that no one knows what the dickens to think or believe.  A fine kettle of fish.

But Old Sleepy Joe is doing such a good job with the virus thingy.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

Covid vaccines remain ‘stunningly effective,’ even as delta concerns grow

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/01/are-covid-vaccines-becoming-less-effective-.html

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

Meanwhile, back on the Titanic...

 

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A 32 year FDA veteran is quitting the agency due to the WH politically strong arming their decision making. If this doesn’t raise red flags among some of you, nothing will.

 

https://www.rt.com/usa/533581-fda-vaccine-heads-quit-oversight/

[Dashinka 24,497]

40 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

Meanwhile, back on the Titanic...

 

 

https://www.rt.com/usa/533581-fda-vaccine-heads-quit-oversight/

I thought it was just Trump that forced decisions of the "scientists".  Does Hunter and by extension "The Big Guy" have financial ties to the vaccine manufacturers.

Edited September 1, 2021 by Dashinka

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

They're called mild cases. But people with breakthrough covid can still feel pretty sick.

https://www.greenwichtime.com/news/article/They-re-called-mild-cases-But-people-with-16426366.php

 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

Record Georgia hospitalizations reported September 1 | Latest COVID case, death, and hospitalization data

https://www.11alive.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/coronavirus-numbers/georgia-record-covid-hospitalizations-september-1/85-22ec9b47-e61a-4ae3-b3fc-d0ffc8097655

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

If you're unvaccinated, DON'T travel over Labor Day weekend: CDC asks 80MILLION unvaccinated Americans to stay home this weekend as COVID cases rise to 160,000 a day

The CDC said unvaccinated Americans should not travel this Labor Day weekend

61.8 percent of eligible Americans have received at least one dose of the vaccine, and 52.4 percent are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC

The nation's rolling seven-day average of new Covid cases ranges from about 130,000, which CDC gave Tuesday, to as high as 160,000

With that said, a ValuePenguin survey of U.S. consumers said on September 1 that one in five Americas - 51 million - are traveling for travel for Labor Day

The top destination spot is Florida, according to the survey 

Reactions on social media to the CDC travel advisory has been mostly defiance  

Regardless of vaccination status, masks are required on all planes, buses and rail lines after Biden extended extended the requirement through January 18, 2022 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9947155/CDC-tells-unvaccinated-Americans-not-travel-Labor-Day-weekend.html