All Things Coronavirus (Part 2)

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

6 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Why Heart Disease Deaths Rose During COVID-19 Surge

 

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-heart-disease-deaths-rose-during-covid-19-surge

How can this possibly be, when the data won't be known for another year or two?  Even 2019 articles refer to 2016 stats.

 

• On average, someone dies of CVD every 38 seconds. About 2,303 deaths from CVD each day, based on 2016 data.

• On average, someone dies of CVD every 37 seconds in the U.S. There are 2,353 deaths from CVD each day, based on 2017 data.

[Dashinka 24,429]

I expect this does not apply to woke rioters.

 

Masks are back: Oregon becomes first state in US to reimpose OUTDOOR mask mandate, regardless of vaccination status 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9924291/Oregon-state-reintroduce-OUTDOOR-face-mask-mandate.html

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

Was just in NYC.  Signs everywhere saying I could not be in that business without a vaccine card and a mask.  I did my business with no mask, and no one asked to see my vaccine card.  Simply more virtue signaling poppycock in a liberal domain.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

Oh look, more covid lies from NY.

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New York Governor Kathy Hochul (D-NY) acknowledged Wednesday that an additional 12,000 COVID-19 deaths occurred during the Cuomo administration than were previously reported by the state. 

 

The update brings New York’s COVID-19 total death toll from 43,400 to 55,400, an increase of more than 25% since Monday’s data, according to the Associated Press. Former Governor Andrew Cuomo, who stepped down Monday, had been criticized for his lack of transparency on the state’s COVID-19 deaths and his pandemic-era policies.

 

CA still has 10,000 more deaths than this new count, but man, what an overnight jump.

 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-ny-governor-kathy-hochul-increases-states-public-covid-19-death-count-by-12000

 

[Just Paul 4,595]

Mary is coming on another week long east coast trip (CLT/RDU/RIC/DCA) with me.   Since she gets an extra $125 or $250 bonus, plus OT and differentials, for each extra shift at the hospital she has money to burn.  We just got back from the Bahamas on the 14th!  

 

Her unit has re-opened a floor in the old hospital with 44 rooms / 66 beds and it's all COVID and un-vaccinated.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

HEALTH AND SCIENCE

Pediatric Covid hospitalizations surge to highest on record in U.S. as doctors brace for more

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/pediatric-covid-hospitalizations-surge-to-highest-on-record-in-us-as-doctors-brace-for-more.html

[Dashinka 24,429]

I do wonder, why are all the attendees no required to wear masks, but the waitstaff is?  I know, it is outdoors, and there is no outdoor mask mandate for CA, but Queen Nancy has been hard on anyone who bucks her masking orders.  Also, as discussed many times, physical distancing is much more important than masks overall, but this does not seem to show much in that respect.

 

Video shows hordes of maskless people at Pelosi fundraiser

 

Mask-pushing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was apparently caught addressing an outdoor crowd of mask-less Democratic bigwigs in COVID-19-riddled Napa Valley over the weekend, according to video and tweets.

 

A clip of the close-quartered California fundraiser was posted on Facebook by Democratic Party donor and winemaker Kathryn Walt Hall — and promptly blasted out on Twitter.

 

The footage appeared to show dozens of unmasked people seated elbow to elbow at long luncheon tables as Pelosi (D-Calif.) gave a speech and masked waiters ambled between the listeners.

 

“All the servants fully masked,” tweeted journalist Glenn Greenwald. “The almost-entirely old, white, rich crowd of DCCC donors free to go maskless as they’re served.”

 

https://nypost.com/2021/08/22/video-shows-hoards-of-maskless-people-at-pelosi-fundraiser/

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by LIBrty4all

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

HEALTH AND SCIENCE

Pediatric Covid hospitalizations surge to highest on record in U.S. as doctors brace for more

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/25/pediatric-covid-hospitalizations-surge-to-highest-on-record-in-us-as-doctors-brace-for-more.html

I thought Delta had already peaked, and was headed down now?

 

 

From the article:

 

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“It is scary to see the number and severity of Covid-19 cases rising in children with the delta variant and so many kids still left unprotected,” said Dr. Nusheen Ameenuddin, a community pediatrician at the Mayo Clinic. “The pandemic never stopped, and unfortunately, it only takes one lit match to reignite the inferno.”

 

Also from the article:

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Kids still account for a very small number of hospitalizations, doctors note, making up roughly 1.8% of all Covid hospitalizations in the U.S.

 

Edited August 26, 2021 by LIBrty4all

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

I do wonder, why are all the attendees no required to wear masks, but the waitstaff is?  I know, it is outdoors, and there is no outdoor mask mandate for CA, but Queen Nancy has been hard on anyone who bucks her masking orders.  Also, as discussed many times, physical distancing is much more important than masks overall, but this does not seem to show much in that respect.

 

Video shows hordes of maskless people at Pelosi fundraiser

 

Mask-pushing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was apparently caught addressing an outdoor crowd of mask-less Democratic bigwigs in COVID-19-riddled Napa Valley over the weekend, according to video and tweets.

 

A clip of the close-quartered California fundraiser was posted on Facebook by Democratic Party donor and winemaker Kathryn Walt Hall — and promptly blasted out on Twitter.

 

The footage appeared to show dozens of unmasked people seated elbow to elbow at long luncheon tables as Pelosi (D-Calif.) gave a speech and masked waiters ambled between the listeners.

 

“All the servants fully masked,” tweeted journalist Glenn Greenwald. “The almost-entirely old, white, rich crowd of DCCC donors free to go maskless as they’re served.”

 

https://nypost.com/2021/08/22/video-shows-hoards-of-maskless-people-at-pelosi-fundraiser/

Silly boy. Only conservatives have super spreader events 

[laylalex 7,284]

Just got a message from one of my close friends, who grew up in Mississippi. His childhood best friend died last night from COVID in Florida. 41 years old, fit and healthy before and thought the vaccines were poison and the risk of getting seriously ill was too low for him to worry about. He spent 15 days on a ventilator and died last night. His death was avoidable and my friend is so angry and heartbroken. 

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

4 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Just got a message from one of my close friends, who grew up in Mississippi. His childhood best friend died last night from COVID in Florida. 41 years old, fit and healthy before and thought the vaccines were poison and the risk of getting seriously ill was too low for him to worry about. He spent 15 days on a ventilator and died last night. His death was avoidable and my friend is so angry and heartbroken. 

Sorry to hear that. we have several at work that were anti vax it's all a big conspiracy, that are full on believers now 

[MarJhi 943]

Simple solution. If the vaccines are perfectly safe, then eliminate the immunity the drug companies have from lawsuits. 

 

If an employer believes vaccines are safe wants to mandate a vaccination for it's employees, allow them to be sued if something goes wrong.

 

I am not saying I am for or against this particular vaccine, but clearly if you want to mandate something while at the same time want immunity from lawsuits, then don't be surprised if there is a lack of trust.

 

As for the term "anti-vax", can we be more specific? I work with plenty of people who don't want this particular vaccine but they have historically had no problem getting a flu shot, tetanus shots, pneumococcal or other vaccines. Are "anti-vaxxers" only defined as those not wanting the covid vaccines even if they have had other vaccines throughout their lifetime? Seems like the term is an attempt to demean/disparage those you disagree with, and I don't think that does any good to sway someone's opinion into getting a shot. Maybe more respect for each other would be a better way to go.

[LIBrty4all 3,749]

27 minutes ago, MarJhi said:

Simple solution. If the vaccines are perfectly safe, then eliminate the immunity the drug companies have from lawsuits. 

 

If an employer believes vaccines are safe wants to mandate a vaccination for it's employees, allow them to be sued if something goes wrong.

 

I am not saying I am for or against this particular vaccine, but clearly if you want to mandate something while at the same time want immunity from lawsuits, then don't be surprised if there is a lack of trust.

 

As for the term "anti-vax", can we be more specific? I work with plenty of people who don't want this particular vaccine but they have historically had no problem getting a flu shot, tetanus shots, pneumococcal or other vaccines. Are "anti-vaxxers" only defined as those not wanting the covid vaccines even if they have had other vaccines throughout their lifetime? Seems like the term is an attempt to demean/disparage those you disagree with, and I don't think that does any good to sway someone's opinion into getting a shot. Maybe more respect for each other would be a better way to go.

+1,000, could not have said it better myself.

And what about people who have adverse reactions to vaccines?  Why are they being forced to get it?  

 

I say if we mandate this vaccine, then everyone in America needs to eat a peanut.  Seems only fair.

 

Oh, and how about disclosing a bit more medical information about our co-workers?  I'd like to know if the person who is sitting next to me at work has AIDS.  Or any STD.  And what treatment(s) they might be undergoing to minimize my risk working next to them.

[Dashinka 24,429]

3 minutes ago, LIBrty4all said:

+1,000, could not have said it better myself.

And what about people who have adverse reactions to vaccines?  Why are they being forced to get it?  

 

I say if we mandate this vaccine, then everyone in America needs to eat a peanut.  Seems only fair.

 

Oh, and how about disclosing a bit more medical information about our co-workers?  I'd like to know if the person who is sitting next to me at work has AIDS.  Or any STD.  And what treatment(s) they might be undergoing to minimize my risk working next to them.

I am still dismayed that those who have recovered from The Vid seem to be completely forgotten in this entire vaccine push.  I know, the anti-bodies decline over time, but anti-bodies are not the end-all to someone's immune system.

 

Lisa Shaw: Radio host died due to rare complications of AstraZeneca vaccine, inquest told

 

https://news.sky.com/story/lisa-shaw-bbc-radio-host-died-due-to-rare-complications-of-astrazeneca-vaccine-inquest-told-12391068