'Remember what they did': Biden backers move to blacklist Trump loyalists

[Dashinka 24,736]

Gotta love free political speech.

 

'Remember what they did': Biden backers move to blacklist Trump loyalists

 

Rep. Alexander Ocasio-Cortez, New York Democrat, began the retaliation talk for unspecified crimes by urging followers to create an anti-Trump archive as evidence.

“Is anyone archiving these Trump sycophants for when they try to downplay or deny their complicity in the future?” the socialist tweeted. “I foresee decent probability of many deleted Tweets, writings, photos in the future.”

 

The same day Ms. Ocasio-Cortez spoke of “complicity” and the accountability project sprung up, the Washington rumor mill said White Housep press secretary Kayleigh McEnany was deleting tweets from her official government account. Biden supporters spread the rumor on social media.

“Sounds like destruction of government records,” tweeted journalist Andrew Feinberg, who writes for the British newspaper The Independent.

“This is fake news,” responded Ms. McEnany, who also called it a “defamatory lie.” “I have not deleted any tweets, but you should delete this patently false tweet.”

Hari Sevugan, former spokesman for the Barack Obama campaign, called for a Washington jobs boycott for Trump loyalists and threatened anyone who would hire them.

 

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/nov/8/biden-backers-blacklist-trump-loyalists-trump-acco/

[JeanneAdil 6,610]

over 69 million people voted for Trump and there is no way to black list these people / many are military and government workers 

can't fire or not hire because of Political beliefs

 

fake news

[Dashinka 24,736]

45 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

over 69 million people voted for Trump and there is no way to black list these people / many are military and government workers 

can't fire or not hire because of Political beliefs

 

fake news

I agree with you, for the general public that supported Trump, but not really sure it is fake news at least with those closely tied to the Trump Administration and wanting to keep working in DC.

[laylalex 7,300]

People who are not in charge of hiring for the new administration have hot takes on who should be hired by the new administration. Film at 11.

 

I don't weep for any of these people. Most of them will do just fine -- privilege is very good at keeping privilege going. They'll find work writing columns for the Federalist or any of the gazillion conservative publications out there. Fox News and OANN and Newsmax will find them spots as talking heads. They'll work for state governments and lobbying firms. 

[Dashinka 24,736]

2 minutes ago, laylalex said:

People who are not in charge of hiring for the new administration have hot takes on who should be hired by the new administration. Film at 11.

 

I don't weep for any of these people. Most of them will do just fine -- privilege is very good at keeping privilege going. They'll find work writing columns for the Federalist or any of the gazillion conservative publications out there. Fox News and OANN and Newsmax will find them spots as talking heads. They'll work for state governments and lobbying firms. 

So you are not at all troubled by this mentality?

[laylalex 7,300]

Just now, Dashinka said:

So you are not at all troubled by this mentality?

We are all free to believe what we wish. None of the people who are ranting about these things hold power enough to do anything like blacklist Trumpworld people. Yes, and that includes AOC. She's likely to find her power greatly diminished under a President Biden who is looking to mend fences and not blow them up.

 

It is likely that Biden will want to replace the majority of those staffers that he can replace legally, because this is generally what incoming administrations do. That's not controversial. The people who would "blacklist" former Trump loyalists are people who wouldn't hire Trumpists in the first place -- they don't need AOC or some former Obama campaign spokesman or a rando British journalist to give them marching orders.

 

More red meat to get people excited. I can see when I am being baited by leftish media, when they throw out what looks like juicy red meat that's actually just a tired and floppy Jack in the Box hamburger when you look closer. 

 

It IS however important to keep an eye on who Biden is choosing to put in key roles, and what that may signal about the way he'll choose to govern. I can bet that Bernie and his supporters are going to be stiffed when it comes to a seat at the table. Those who voted for Biden based more on getting Trump out are I think going to be disappointed if they expect institutional change.

[Dashinka 24,736]

11 minutes ago, laylalex said:

We are all free to believe what we wish. None of the people who are ranting about these things hold power enough to do anything like blacklist Trumpworld people. Yes, and that includes AOC. She's likely to find her power greatly diminished under a President Biden who is looking to mend fences and not blow them up.

 

It is likely that Biden will want to replace the majority of those staffers that he can replace legally, because this is generally what incoming administrations do. That's not controversial. The people who would "blacklist" former Trump loyalists are people who wouldn't hire Trumpists in the first place -- they don't need AOC or some former Obama campaign spokesman or a rando British journalist to give them marching orders.

 

More red meat to get people excited. I can see when I am being baited by leftish media, when they throw out what looks like juicy red meat that's actually just a tired and floppy Jack in the Box hamburger when you look closer. 

 

It IS however important to keep an eye on who Biden is choosing to put in key roles, and what that may signal about the way he'll choose to govern. I can bet that Bernie and his supporters are going to be stiffed when it comes to a seat at the table. Those who voted for Biden based more on getting Trump out are I think going to be disappointed if they expect institutional change.

I have no issues with Biden replacing folks like any other new incoming administration.  Nothing may come of this of course, but to me it is troubling that anyone in a mainstream elected position is thinking this way.  We will see what happens with Biden, he still will not take any questions, and we have no idea how much influence Kamala will have on the direction of his administration.

[JeanneAdil 6,610]

2 hours ago, Dashinka said:

I agree with you, for the general public that supported Trump, but not really sure it is fake news at least with those closely tied to the Trump Administration and wanting to keep working in DC.

that is not blacklisting

each President is in charge of his own cabinet and over a thousand other positions

BTW   if he chooses,  he can reassign every embassy head /  his choice

but these people have impressive resumes and finding new employment is not going to be a problem

 

 

and Forbes says this

TOPLINE

 

A key White House aide is threatening to fire any federal political appointees who look for new jobs before President Donald Trump’s term ends, several news outlets reported Monday, as the president and his inner circle remain unwilling to accept his loss 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

19 minutes ago, laylalex said:

We are all free to believe what we wish. None of the people who are ranting about these things hold power enough to do anything like blacklist Trumpworld people. Yes, and that includes AOC. She's likely to find her power greatly diminished under a President Biden who is looking to mend fences and not blow them up.

 

It is likely that Biden will want to replace the majority of those staffers that he can replace legally, because this is generally what incoming administrations do. That's not controversial. The people who would "blacklist" former Trump loyalists are people who wouldn't hire Trumpists in the first place -- they don't need AOC or some former Obama campaign spokesman or a rando British journalist to give them marching orders.

 

More red meat to get people excited. I can see when I am being baited by leftish media, when they throw out what looks like juicy red meat that's actually just a tired and floppy Jack in the Box hamburger when you look closer. 

 

It IS however important to keep an eye on who Biden is choosing to put in key roles, and what that may signal about the way he'll choose to govern. I can bet that Bernie and his supporters are going to be stiffed when it comes to a seat at the table. Those who voted for Biden based more on getting Trump out are I think going to be disappointed if they expect institutional change.

I feel the same way as @Dashinka this is very troubling because they are talking about "putting Trump supporters and enablers on lists" to blacklist them from work and any kind of government position. So does that mean only high level people or lower level people as well. What happens to someone like me for example who is a low level person and then possibly runs for office, will I be moved onto that list now? 

Also they are already doing it on twitter with a couple lawyers. The Lincoln Project did a tweet with names, emails, and phone numbers so in essence doxing them. But nothing is happening to the LP

Edited November 10, 2020 by Cyberfx1024

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

3 minutes ago, JeanneAdil said:

that is not blacklisting

 

They are talking about blacklisting people

[laylalex 7,300]

To effectively blacklist people, you need to have the power to enforce such a blacklist. AOC doesn't have very much power, as much as the media like to spin it. She's a decent looking young woman who speaks her mind, whether or not you agree with what she says. But she has no power and in what is likely to be an administration that falls over itself to look NOT like a bunch of firebrands, she'll be marginalized, for better or worse. The other people shouting about this have even less power -- foreign journalists, former administration officials.

 

Look, a lot of people out there think this administration did some terrible things. Things that harmed our reputation abroad, things that harmed people on our own soil. People are angry -- that's why Biden got more votes. Some people are more angry and want to call people to account. And people are shouting about it because hey, talk is cheap and it can feel fun to play "let's pretend" once in a while when you know you have zero power to do anything about changing what you feel is a corrupt system. In my fantasies, Steven Miller is tossed into a pit of despair and never works again. He loses what little hair he has left and has to spend his days watching The View and MSNBC. But I have as much power to make that happen as some random journalist.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

2 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I feel the same way as @Dashinka this is very troubling because they are talking about "putting Trump supporters and enablers on lists" to blacklist them from work and any kind of government position. So does that mean only high level people or lower level people as well. What happens to someone like me for example who is a low level person and then possibly runs for office, will I be moved onto that list now? 

Also they are already doing it on twitter with a couple lawyers. The Lincoln Project did a tweet with names, emails, and phone numbers so in essence doxing them. But nothing is happening to the LP

 

   The best we can do here is send a message to the more moderate, centrist politicians in each party and show them they have our support. The ultra polarized (or bipolar) partisanship climate of the last 20 years or so has favored the extremes of both parties being heard over the moderates, and also discourages the moderates from speaking up for fear of losing their positions.

 

  That's part of what this election was about. We may not ever have a centrist party in the US, but we can show the two we have that we are sick of the extremists. It has happened before and when it does, the wingnuts in both parties will be a lot less relevant. 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

Such a blacklist is not merely to "block" people, it's a methodology of intimidation that says you can't join an administration one doesn't approve of or else you're subject to a mob that will endlessly come to your house with bullhorns and threaten your family, get you fired from your job, attack anyone you do business with and get them to stop doing business with you. This type of bullying only began a few years ago and it's ramped up significantly by extremists to put fear into others for the crime of opposing them politically.

[Dashinka 24,736]

9 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Such a blacklist is not merely to "block" people, it's a methodology of intimidation that says you can't join an administration one doesn't approve of or else you're subject to a mob that will endlessly come to your house with bullhorns and threaten your family, get you fired from your job, attack anyone you do business with and get them to stop doing business with you. This type of bullying only began a few years ago and it's ramped up significantly by extremists to put fear into others for the crime of opposing them politically.

I completely agree.  This group may not be able to effectively "blacklist" anyone, but we know they are not above using doxing as a weapon against people they deem unworthy.

[TBoneTX 45,956]

1 hour ago, laylalex said:

She's a decent looking young woman who speaks her mind

Alternatively, she's frightening-looking and speaks her occasional-cortex, or as though she has one.