Query regarding WebWed Mobile (Marriage online)

[milimelo 4,477]

Look into Gibraltar for marriage. 

[Alyxbkk 2]

Thanks 

Denmark is the best but...we cannot travel 

[Loren Y 2,755]

I know just recently the Thai parliament just passed the Civil Partnership Bill. Gives you just about the same rights as a married couple in Thailand, and since you are not planning to immigrate to the US, it would allow you to meet all the requirements of a married couple in Thailand, and it may qualify as a legal marriage in the eyes of USCIS, but I don't know how they look at Civil Unions, as that is basically what it is, but from my understanding it is available now, or coming really soon as it was all over the Thai News back in July 2020, so you may want to look into this.

 

https://apnews.com/article/520203610f17a5ccccfa60c5f24889b7

[Alyxbkk 2]

Hello Loren

Thanks but unfortunately the bill has not been passed yet: it will take around a year more, or so if it does before it is published in the Royal Gazette. Also, to be performed, this partnership adresses couples where  one of the partners is Thai and that is not the case.

Regarding the USCIS, I guess it would, at least, be considered as an established / official relationship avoiding some red tapes but hopefully as a marriage.

[isis375 105]

I originally contemplated using WebWed to get married but after researching extensively, it was much easier, more straightforward, and 90% cheaper to go directly through the Utah Couty Clerk. It's the same jurisdiction WebWed uses and you can do it by yourself. YES, it is completely legal and legitimately recognized across the US and therefore anywhere in the world that registers marriages that occur in the US. NO, your marriage certificate will NOT mention anything about online and will look like any regular marriage certificate. YES, you still have to be in person at some point following the marriage to meet the consummation requirements of USCIS, but that doesn't sound like a problem for you. Don't feel like you're required to explain to all of these people here why you've personally decided that getting married online through the US (Utah). It sounds like you have thought it over and it fits your situation.

Here are instructions based on what I did in September: 
 

Apply for marriage license here :

http://www.utahcounty.gov/Dept/ClerkAud/Marriage.html

 

You'll need you Driver's License for the US citizen and a government ID or Passport for the foreigner as well as each a selfie that is clear, similar to passport photos.

Please carefully read the instructions before applying. You will need to put the county clerk's address as the mailing address for the non citizen during this part.

You'll complete the application and pay $70 or $50 if you complete the free Marriage Counseling they offer.

You'll get emailed the marriage license, and if you followed the instructions on the site which tells you to put the Utah County clerk's office as the mailing address for the foreigner , you will then forward the marriage license email back to them asking them to correct the address to the foreigner's actual address. Then you'll receive an updated marriage license.

Once you have the license, you go here :

http://www.utahcounty.gov/Dept/ClerkAud/MarrCeremony.html

 

You will schedule the ceremony as web conference. You'll need the marriage license number, the link on the email they sent you, and the names of two witnesses that will appear for the ceremony. You will get a link you can send to as many friends and family as you want to join the Zoom meeting during the ceremony.

24 hours before your ceremony, you'll get a reminder email with a portal to pay the ceremony fee of $35.

During the ceremony, the clerk will send your marriage license in and within 5 minutes, you'll receive an email with a digital certified marriage certificate that you can use for name changes or any other official business in the USA. You'll have a paper copy mailed to the citizen's address.

Additionally, for registering my marriage in the other country, i went and ordered two more paper copies while i was at it so i can mail one back to Utah to get an apostille.

Edit to add what my digital certificate looks like :
https://imgur.com/a/IYAqpma

Edited November 16, 2020 by isis375
clarification

[isis375 105]

Also, for foreign purposes, you may need an apostille, like I did, to have the marriage registered in other countries. It sounds like your country may not recognize same sex marriages so unless you end up needing this anyway, I guess this is for other people looking at this post. To get an apostille, I would (and did) order an extra certified copy of the marriage certificate the night of the wedding. To get an apostille (of any document) you need to send the document to the state government office of the state in which the document was created. For the marriage certificate, this would be Utah and the information for obtaining one can be found here: https://authentications.utah.gov/process-from-home-page/

Edited November 16, 2020 by isis375
typo

[Alyxbkk 2]

58 minutes ago, isis375 said:

I originally contemplated using WebWed to get married but after researching extensively, it was much easier, more straightforward, and 90% cheaper to go directly through the Utah Couty Clerk. It's the same jurisdiction WebWed uses and you can do it by yourself. YES, it is completely legal and legitimately recognized across the US and therefore anywhere in the world that registers marriages that occur in the US. NO, your marriage certificate will NOT mention anything about online and will look like any regular marriage certificate. YES, you still have to be in person at some point following the marriage to meet the consummation requirements of USCIS, but that doesn't sound like a problem for you. Don't feel like you're required to explain to all of these people here why you've personally decided that getting married online through the US (Utah). It sounds like you have thought it over and it fits your situation.

Here are instructions based on what I did in September: 
 

Apply for marriage license here :

http://www.utahcounty.gov/Dept/ClerkAud/Marriage.html

 

You'll need you Driver's License for the US citizen and a government ID or Passport for the foreigner as well as each a selfie that is clear, similar to passport photos.

Please carefully read the instructions before applying. You will need to put the county clerk's address as the mailing address for the non citizen during this part.

You'll complete the application and pay $70 or $50 if you complete the free Marriage Counseling they offer.

You'll get emailed the marriage license, and if you followed the instructions on the site which tells you to put the Utah County clerk's office as the mailing address for the foreigner , you will then forward the marriage license email back to them asking them to correct the address to the foreigner's actual address. Then you'll receive an updated marriage license.

Once you have the license, you go here :

http://www.utahcounty.gov/Dept/ClerkAud/MarrCeremony.html

 

You will schedule the ceremony as web conference. You'll need the marriage license number, the link on the email they sent you, and the names of two witnesses that will appear for the ceremony. You will get a link you can send to as many friends and family as you want to join the Zoom meeting during the ceremony.

24 hours before your ceremony, you'll get a reminder email with a portal to pay the ceremony fee of $35.

During the ceremony, the clerk will send your marriage license in and within 5 minutes, you'll receive an email with a digital certified marriage certificate that you can use for name changes or any other official business in the USA. You'll have a paper copy mailed to the citizen's address.

Additionally, for registering my marriage in the other country, i went and ordered two more paper copies while i was at it so i can mail one back to Utah to get an apostille.

Edit to add what my digital certificate looks like :
https://imgur.com/a/IYAqpma

Hello Isis 

 

This is quite an exhaustive reply. Thank you so much for letting me know about your experience. It is pretty helpful. Kindly confirm that at no point you or your husband were in Utah, before, during and after the ceremony .

Edited November 16, 2020 by Alyxbkk

[Alyxbkk 2]

47 minutes ago, isis375 said:

Also, for foreign purposes, you may need an apostille, like I did, to have the marriage registered in other countries. It sounds like your country may not recognize same sex marriages so unless you end up needing this anyway, I guess this is for other people looking at this post. To get an apostille, I would (and did) order an extra certified copy of the marriage certificate the night of the wedding. To get an apostille (of any document) you need to send the document to the state government office of the state in which the document was created. For the marriage certificate, this would be Utah and the information for obtaining one can be found here: https://authentications.utah.gov/process-from-home-page/

Thanks again.

 

No, France does recognise same sex marriage. The only thing I am worried about is that they ask for a certificate to be delivered by the "local" embassy (which has been done but ...in Denmark ) but also the fact that there is not record of me going to the US in order to get married. If it is not a bother I am going to PM you . Have great day and...thank you so much again

[isis375 105]

No problem! The alure of WebWed is certainly there, when you don't think there are any other options for your situation, but the price of basically $1000 is just ridiculous when you realize you can do the manwork yourself for basically $100 total. Good luck with your situation! And sure, you can PM me anytime. 

[HRQX 4,145]

On 11/10/2020 at 2:41 AM, Alyxbkk said:

Denmark is the best but...we cannot travel 

So your partner is US citizen and you are national of EU country and both of you are residing in Thailand; correct? If so, those residing in Thailand can enter Denmark: Persons resident in open countries/regions https://coronasmitte.dk/en/entry-into-denmark/persons-resident-in-open-countries

 

https://coronasmitte.dk/en/entry-into-denmark/is-my-country-open-or-banned "Thailand"

[Alyxbkk 2]

6 hours ago, HRQX said:

So your partner is US citizen and you are national of EU country and both of you are residing in Thailand; correct? If so, those residing in Thailand can enter Denmark: Persons resident in open countries/regions https://coronasmitte.dk/en/entry-into-denmark/persons-resident-in-open-countries

 

https://coronasmitte.dk/en/entry-into-denmark/is-my-country-open-or-banned "Thailand"

This is correct as all residents of Thailand are allowed in Denmark. The problem is to come back. As a matter of fact there are so many hurdles that we might be stuck outside of Thailand, hence our search for an alternative 

Thank you for taking the time to enquire about the situation in Denmark

Nothing is easy due to this virus 

[Y Payne 0]

Hey, this might be a bit late, but my husband and I used WebWed to get married back in May 2020. He is from the US and I'm from the UK. We were both in the UK, but marriages weren't allowed in the UK in May, and my husband couldn't get married with a UK marriage license because he'd come over as a visitor. Webwed was the ideal solution because we were getting a US certificate despite us being physically in the UK. 

My husband has since successfully obtained a UK spouse visa using that certificate which shows that the certificate is accepted as a legal document. 

However, we recently tried to fly to the US. Due to covid restrictions, UK citizens can't travel to the US unless they are the spouse of a US citizen (amongst other exemptions). I expected to be allowed to travel since we are married, but the US border control official at the airport said I couldn't because there's a specific rule that foreign spouses who got married online can't enter the US under the current travel ban since it is a loophole that is open to fraudulent use. 

So overall, the marriage is official and legal, but it is becoming more common, and therefore there are specific regulations about it.

If my husband and I choose to move to the US I suspect it won't be an issue when I try to get a visa since by that point we will have been married and lived together for several years, therefore proving the legitimacy of our relationship will not be a problem. 

[Alyxbkk 2]

10 hours ago, Y Payne said:

Hey, this might be a bit late, but my husband and I used WebWed to get married back in May 2020. He is from the US and I'm from the UK. We were both in the UK, but marriages weren't allowed in the UK in May, and my husband couldn't get married with a UK marriage license because he'd come over as a visitor. Webwed was the ideal solution because we were getting a US certificate despite us being physically in the UK. 

My husband has since successfully obtained a UK spouse visa using that certificate which shows that the certificate is accepted as a legal document. 

However, we recently tried to fly to the US. Due to covid restrictions, UK citizens can't travel to the US unless they are the spouse of a US citizen (amongst other exemptions). I expected to be allowed to travel since we are married, but the US border control official at the airport said I couldn't because there's a specific rule that foreign spouses who got married online can't enter the US under the current travel ban since it is a loophole that is open to fraudulent use. 

So overall, the marriage is official and legal, but it is becoming more common, and therefore there are specific regulations about it.

If my husband and I choose to move to the US I suspect it won't be an issue when I try to get a visa since by that point we will have been married and lived together for several years, therefore proving the legitimacy of our relationship will not be a problem. 

Thank you so much for the insight. I guess it won't be long before they intervene but it is great to hear that your husband is recognised as such in the UK

[COUSA 8]

On 11/10/2020 at 2:14 PM, HRQX said:

Which jurisdiction's law is "WedWeb" claiming to perform the marriage in? Details matter.

My wife and I were married by this company on October 4/5, 2020. It was the 5th in the Philippines. I received  my 9A Visa on December 6, 2020. Left Wichita Kansas on December 10,2020 and arrived in Manila December 11, 2020. Got nostril and throat swab test done at the airport no choice. You have to get the swab test whether you have it scheduled or not. If you have it scheduled already it’s faster. Cost about US$85. I only had to spend 14 hours at the hotel though before I received my negative test results. I highly recommend Wedweb. If you use them don’t forget to get the Apostille certificate. I just presented the packet of information I got back from the Philippines Houston, Texas consulate and I got into the country perfectly fine. They are a great company to get married by if you’re looking for quick ceremony.  
section 19 of Philippine marriage law says that marriage is a broader allowed as long as the country where the ceremony is being performed allows and recognizes them the Philippines will also. 
Course, since the USA got put on the Philippines band last till January 15, 2021 anyway, I guess it really doesn’t matter

 

[COUSA 8]

On 11/10/2020 at 1:21 AM, Alyxbkk said:

Hey 

 

Has anyone used their services and were they up to their promises?

 

I have read a similar thread posted earlier but no sound information about this company.

 

I am kind of wary as they are difficult to reach prior to the payment of their fee (although they seem quite responsive as soon as the transfer took place )

 

Thanks 

 

 

The problem is that they get so many inquiries every day that they can’t waste their time talking to people that are just trying to find out how it’s done what what  what.
If you email them they will reply even though it may not be instantly because they’re busy. They’re not just marrying international couples they’re  marrying Americans that are in separate countries also. Like an army guy in Germany wants to marry his girlfriend in Kansas they can do it. That’s actually how they got started in the business, marrying military folks that were stationed out of the USA.

the owners, Randy and CJ are great. 

Only in America could a guy in Oklahoma get married to a girl in the Philippines with a marriage certificate and Apostille certificate issued by the state of Utah, officiated by a legal judge in Washington DC. Isn’t America great?  
I gave them a five star rating all the way because we got married October fourth and I was in the Philippines December 11. Had to do a 13 hour quarantine in the hotel before I got my negative test results back from the NAIA international airport in Manila.