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1 minute ago, abum said:

 

Maybe this is a good starting point. 

 

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2018 called..... They want their Russian interference claims back

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7 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

2018 called..... They want their Russian interference claims back

 

2016 called, they want their dumb millions-of-illegal-votes claims back. 

 

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22 minutes ago, abum said:

 

Maybe this is a good starting point. 

 

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Not really a response to my question, but I understand your reluctance to dig into the dealings of a corrupt career politician.

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58 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Shouldn't an investigation be started to find out?  We know Biden has close ties to the Ukraine, and many folks there are close to Putin, so it stands to reason that a corrupt career politician might have ties, or things that Putin can hold over their head.

there are still the corrupt people left over from the Yanukovych era to spread disinformation that would favor Putin, but there are not as many, and certainly not as many in higher echelons of power, especially after Maidan.

saying there are many close to putin is a stretch

a lot of people were apparently really angry about the call between trump and Zelensky as they would prefer to stay out of our politics. He has been losing support, so there are i am sure spots where bad actors can slip through.

 

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3 minutes ago, Prizm123 said:

there are still the corrupt people left over from the Yanukovych era to spread disinformation that would favor Putin, but there are not as many, and certainly not as many in higher echelons of power, especially after Maidan.

saying there are many close to putin is a stretch

a lot of people were apparently really angry about the call between trump and Zelensky as they would prefer to stay out of our politics. He has been losing support, so there are i am sure spots where bad actors can slip through.

 

a lot of this has been relayed to me by a very trusted source

I guess I was speaking more of the petroleum/natural gas business people in the Ukraine.  I expect there might be some Russian ties with those folks. 

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1 hour ago, abum said:

 

2016 called, they want their dumb millions-of-illegal-votes claims back. 

 

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No one here brought this up so I don't know why you did. You are the one that brought up the whole Russia BS. 

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54 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

No one here brought this up so I don't know why you did. You are the one that brought up the whole Russia BS. 

Presenting Exhibit A: 

 

On 11/17/2020 at 8:53 AM, Boiler said:

What I want to know is how come the Russian, who controlled the election last time, had no say at all in it this time?

 

Surprising that some could not connect this 2020 fraud claim/hoax with the 2016 millions of illegal votes fraud claim/hoax, by the same well known serial liar. 

 

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Just now, abum said:

 

Presenting Exhibit A: 

 

 

Surprising that some could not connect this 2020 fraud claim/hoax with the 2016 millions of illegal votes fraud claim/hoax, by the same well known serial liar. 

 

I always love it when liars are only seen on one side of the political spectrum.  Btw, 2016 was four years ago.

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Sad to say, my wife is from a 3rd word country, and she also says we have voted to end America, and become a 3rd world country too. I do wonder what will become of her military career. Am glad she is a nurse and can find employment in any country, no matter how sad the state of the country might be. I am sure those who hate America will get everything they wished for, and more . Those who love America as it was, what do we do? Am looking for a new Amerrica, which I dont know how to find

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Yeah, I admit it. Y'all stole the election. Now this country is yours, to make the mess of it you wish. The Senate may stay in place as a check to that. The House with a greater number of Republicans there than before may be able to block things. But if the Libs have their way, America is gone. A great country with great values, gone. Very sad. Very sad. I dont see anything on the right fighting back against this. This country will go down without the resistance.

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I will fight back. I will resist. I will rebel.  We as a family will do our own thing. But I will resist the takeover of this country in whatever way I can. We will live according to the Bible, according to what is right, but I also have a responsibility to this country I love. I will fight for the America I grew up in. But we will live each day in freedom in our own household. We will live as a family of Americans, honoring our flag, worshipping our God, being kind to others who we encounter along our way no matter their viewpoints on life and government. We in our family will live our lives as we have always lived our lives, whether Socialist, Communist or Free. But at the same time I will never be silent and I will fight for America.

GOD bless the USA and all the freedoms and goodness it has stood for

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How do you live if you are agnostic?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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32 minutes ago, Boiler said:

How do you live if you are agnostic?

Rhetorical or..?

 

57 minutes ago, doeringbrian said:

Yeah, I admit it. Y'all stole the election. Now this country is yours, to make the mess of it you wish. The Senate may stay in place as a check to that. The House with a greater number of Republicans there than before may be able to block things. But if the Libs have their way, America is gone. A great country with great values, gone. Very sad. Very sad. I dont see anything on the right fighting back against this. This country will go down without the resistance.

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