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Outstanding presentation of statistical anomaly by an MIT PhD.. some of the things he opines on the side I don't really agree with, but the data analysis is sound:

 

 

Conclusion remarks about 40 minutes in. It made no sense that Republicans can increase in these precincts yet Trump lose votes and them transfer to Biden, which goes FAR against what we know about Republican support of Trump. 

 

And this can't be looked at in isolation but as part of a whole of serious efforts to undermine the election. What matters to me is that this is accounted for, rectified, and prevented in the future.

 

Funny enough "weighted race" algorithms were discussed which hearkens to Ohio in 2004. 

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    Since the election thread closed early, latest Arizona update - Biden up by ~14500 with ~49000 votes left to count. Trump needs to average ~65% of the remaining vote to catch up. Time is running out here for Trump, but probably the only state left where anything could realistically change before we move on to recounts.

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The one truism, and the deepest chasm, is:

 

A.  Trump's supporters know to interpret him figuratively rather than literally; and

B.  His opponents insist on taking him literally.

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It puts things in perspective with just looking at four counties in that video posted above. Here are screenshots for the purpose of awareness (and discussion for those who actually intend on honest discussion)

 

How we understand voters, because the vast majority are predictable as we see in historical results:

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The graph says Republicans tend to vote Republicans, Democrats Democrat. Shouldn't be a shock to anyone.

 

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What these other graphs are saying in 3 counties is that not only that overwhelmingly Democrats voted more for Trump than usual (especially with in-person voting), but that the more "Republican" the precinct got, the more they voted for Biden.. with near-perfect to perfect consistency. Wayne however looks relatively normal in that analysis (party line voting). This is absolutely not indicative of a normal, human distribution of votes because it doesn't even look human, this output looks absolutely algorithmic. This sort of thing is done on the software side. I'd challenge anyone to explain how this is normal and why it should be trusted. The data they got is available to anyone. We've already seen outcomes changed and results flipped because of these errors when spotted and rectified. There are clearly many more.

 

This is also not something to look at in isolation, as there were clearly other efforts to hinder or eliminate oversight, observers, etc. that don't come down to algorithmic execution. There's also some very interesting questions, which Republicans are going to need to answer, about how this implicates their party as well. Either we're going to get honest answers, or we're going to get football team answers. I think there needs to be some serious inquiry and I hope Trump is focused and not beside himself clogging up the courts with moronic lawsuits lacking substance when there's so much blatant evidence that should by its systematic efforts result in either ballots thrown out or a re-election conducted in these regions without these systems and with oversight+paper trails instituted. 

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A Pennsylvania postal worker whose claims have been cited by top Republicans as potential evidence of widespread voting irregularities admitted to U.S. Postal Service investigators that he fabricated the allegations, according to three officials briefed on the investigation and a statement from a House congressional committee.

 

Richard Hopkins’s claim that a postmaster in Erie, Pa., instructed postal workers to backdate ballots mailed after Election Day was cited by Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) in a letter to the Justice Department calling for a federal investigation. Attorney General William P. Barr subsequently authorized federal prosecutors to open probes into credible allegations of voting irregularities and fraud, a reversal of long-standing Justice Department policy.

 

But on Monday, Hopkins, 32, told investigators from the U.S. Postal Service’s Office of Inspector General that the allegations were not true, and he signed an affidavit recanting his claims, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Democrats on the House Oversight Committee tweeted late Tuesday that the “whistleblower completely RECANTED.”

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The reversal comes as Trump has refused to concede to President-elect Joe Biden (D), citing unproven allegations about widespread voter fraud in an attempt to swing the results in his favor. Republicans held up Hopkins’s claims as among the most credible because he signed an affidavit swearing that he overheard a supervisor instructing colleagues to backdate ballots mailed after Nov. 3.

 

The Trump campaign provided that affidavit to Graham, who in turn asked the Justice Department and FBI to launch an investigation.

 

The Trump campaign also cited reports of the allegation in a federal lawsuit filed Monday against Pennsylvania election officials that seeks to prevent them from certifying the states’ election results.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/postal-worker-fabricated-ballot-pennsylvania/2020/11/10/99269a7c-2364-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html

 

I hope they throw the book at this guy for perjury.

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13 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I thought it had the smell of what happened with Flynn..

 

 

 

And if it turns out he was telling the truth and was coerced into recanting, you still want the book thrown at him for perjury?

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Trump's big new election lawsuit alleges voter fraud potentially happened in 2 Pennsylvania counties. Both overwhelmingly voted for him.

 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-pennsylvania-election-lawsuit-allege-voter-fraud-2-counties-2020-11?utmSource=twitter&utmContent=referral&utmTerm=topbar&referrer=twitter

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Yeah, you know, this guy isn't exactly the most reliable dude on the block. If he makes a false affidavit and then recants, and makes another "false" affidavit and then says oh nooooo, I was tricked! he gets to win anyway. He tells the truth in an affidavit (always the best thing to do!) and he gets to say outside of court, oh, I didn't really mean it. If he really recanted, let him make another affidavit. Put his money where his mouth is. I bet dollars to donuts he won't.

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Grifters gonna grift. That guy is going to jail.

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He wants to keep his gofundme going, probably.

Sure, he apparently has a lot of child support to pay. 

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6 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Yeah, you know, this guy isn't exactly the most reliable dude on the block. If he makes a false affidavit and then recants, and makes another "false" affidavit and then says oh nooooo, I was tricked! he gets to win anyway. He tells the truth in an affidavit (always the best thing to do!) and he gets to say outside of court, oh, I didn't really mean it. If he really recanted, let him make another affidavit. Put his money where his mouth is. I bet dollars to donuts he won't.

Quite true, who believes recordings of conversations anyways? That's for chumps, the truth is really in an evidence free article using anonymous sources. 😃

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1 minute ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Quite true, who believes recordings of conversations anyways? That's for chumps, the truth is really in an evidence free article using anonymous sources. 😃

What counts here is what is in a sworn statement. Recordings mean zero. Currently the affidavit he has sworn to upon penalty of perjury is that he made it all up. If he really was coerced, let him make another one. It's not hard to do. You write it up and you sign and date it. He can do it himself. If he has enough time to talk on video, he has enough time to write out a new one. If the state makes him have it notarized, it's not exactly expensive. I'm sure he can tap that gofundme for the fee.

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1 minute ago, laylalex said:

What counts here is what is in a sworn statement. Recordings mean zero. Currently the affidavit he has sworn to upon penalty of perjury is that he made it all up. If he really was coerced, let him make another one. It's not hard to do. You write it up and you sign and date it. He can do it himself. If he has enough time to talk on video, he has enough time to write out a new one. If the state makes him have it notarized, it's not exactly expensive. I'm sure he can tap that gofundme for the fee.

I believe if he recorded someone without making them aware of said recording, he is also in big trouble as PA is a two-party consent state. The same goes for anyone that may have 'intercepted' or obtained one as well.

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