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5 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

The “mask up” fetish showed up during the SARS outbreaks and carried into this one.  Japan, for example, issued masks to every family early in their outbreak for example and in fact the people were complaining that they did not issue more.  The CDC recommendation for masks in public was issued April 3rd.  The US was at about 7500 reported deaths.  Trump was mocking masks more than 200,000 deaths later the day before the election.  You will never link enough words and sentences together to excuse that.

We are back to the masks solve everything, the question is will you now wear a mask every flu season now?  Btw, here in Michigan it is an anomaly to see anyone not wearing a mask inside a public store and yet the numbers have increased there.  Masks are only one tool that are somewhat effective depending on how they are actually used, physical distance and reducing contact time with anyone is probably way more important to the spread.

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4 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

We are back to the masks solve everything, the question is will you now wear a mask every flu season now?  Btw, here in Michigan it is an anomaly to see anyone not wearing a mask inside a public store and yet the numbers have increased there.  Masks are only one tool that are somewhat effective depending on how they are actually used, physical distance and reducing contact time with anyone is probably way more important to the spread.

In these elderly care homes weren't people supposed to be following safety and sanitation protocols anyways, often including masks for the most vulnerable? Must have been Trump's fault that they didn't. I'm sure if he issued a "wear a mask" directive back in January when people were telling him how useless it was, almost none of these deaths would've happened. Because magic + orange man bad.

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25 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Japan is Japan. Americans aren't the Japanese. So pretending like you can copy and paste their culture (or any other Asian cultures that are far more okay with wearing masks at any given time) onto the US is pure fantasy. Part of understanding efficacy is understanding what people will and won't do. If one wants Americans to adopt a certain behavior, the dumbest thing to do is have an authority figure simply decree it. That's not how American society works, even though there are some clear fetishists looking for someone to give them orders. It isn't Trump's fault just because he laughs off the idea, especially in light of "experts" initially saying masks do eff all. It's worth laughing off, and still is. 

I know monkeys can imitate but trumpers can’t.  They need their competitiveness legislated for them.  No need to hear excuses from them.  “Someone told us it was right and it works and by gaw we gonna show ‘em”
 

They showed us all right.  10th place.  From the bottom.  In deaths/100k, not cases.

 

So you can blame Trump’s loss on anything you want.  Trump just taught us all that a team of 10 doctors and 7 prescriptions just don’t cure stupid and that handing the keys over to high school shop class wasn’t a very good idea.

 

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At least now the Covid issue is history and we can move on.

 

Biden will sort it out.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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16 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

In these elderly care homes weren't people supposed to be following safety and sanitation protocols anyways, often including masks for the most vulnerable? Must have been Trump's fault that they didn't. I'm sure if he issued a "wear a mask" directive back in January when people were telling him how useless it was, almost none of these deaths would've happened. Because magic + orange man bad.

Need to work your way on through spring and summer.  Masks were recommended when we had fewer than 10,000 deaths.  12 weeks of full participation would have cut spread by 80%.  Whole areas of the country could have been spared.  Instead? Trumpspread got them all.  

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47 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

His "global stats" was not what I responded to. We were talking about the US and Texas.

 

And yes, it's plummeting when the current US death rate is 2.3% and it was well over 4% in May. It's halved, which indicates the national rate has plummeted toward 1% since then, despite the monthly hysteria about cases as if they should just magically stop in light of more testing done than before.

In January, WHO estimated case fatality rate at 2%.  That number isn’t “made up”

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Sorry, Bub. In the United States the media does not decide the election.  "It ain't over till it's over", and that wont be for some time. From the United States, to Switzerland,  to Iraq... the world knows the crime the Democratic party is trying to commit. It is an "in your face" moment by the Democrats, and everyone knows. There is a long, although possibly futile, court battle ahead. It is criminal what has happened, and the Left should be ashamed, but they wont be, because that is the times 

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26 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

We are back to the masks solve everything, the question is will you now wear a mask every flu season now?  Btw, here in Michigan it is an anomaly to see anyone not wearing a mask inside a public store and yet the numbers have increased there.  Masks are only one tool that are somewhat effective depending on how they are actually used, physical distance and reducing contact time with anyone is probably way more important to the spread.

Why would I wear a mask during flu season if I already got a flu shot.

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1 minute ago, JoBri said:

Sorry, Bub. In the United States the media does not decide the election.  "It ain't over till it's over", and that wont be for some time. From the United States, to Switzerland,  to Iraq... the world knows the crime the Democratic party is trying to commit. It is an "in your face" moment by the Democrats, and everyone knows. There is a long, although possibly futile, court battle ahead. It is criminal what has happened, and the Left should be ashamed, but they wont be, because that is the times 

You ain’t popping off to the left here Admiral.  You talking to the Right.  The world is actually celebrating (except for the Saudis and Kim Jong) Your commander-in-tweet turned our country into his personal petri dish.  We took it back.  You get on board.  Trump’s out.

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1 minute ago, Nitas_man said:

I know monkeys can imitate but trumpers can’t.  They need their competitiveness legisllated for them.

So who are all the millions people in the cities rioting, looting, marching/protesting, celebrating/partying, etc without the beloved masks? Trumpers? 

 

I mean, the tunnel vision is cool and pretty hilarious, but more than anything, it's educational that self described conservative Republicans who paraphrase things the media say and follow the Lincoln Project find themselves endorsing the kind of (targeted, no less) left wing authoritarianism of the squad.

 

There's no other interpretation here besides TDS.

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1 minute ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

So who are all the millions people in the cities rioting, looting, marching/protesting, celebrating/partying, etc without the beloved masks? Trumpers? 

 

I mean, the tunnel vision is cool and pretty hilarious, but more than anything, it's educational that self described conservative Republicans who paraphrase things the media say and follow the Lincoln Project find themselves endorsing the kind of (targeted, no less) left wing authoritarianism of the squad.

 

There's no other interpretation here besides TDS.

You have already been invited to believe what you wish.  Biden has said or done nothing to deliberately perpetuate COV spread 

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10 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

In January, WHO estimated case fatality rate at 2%.  That number isn’t “made up”

If you believe estimates from the WHO after what they said at the beginning of the year, you'll clearly believe anything.

 

7 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

You ain’t popping off to the left here Admiral.  You talking to the Right.  The world is actually celebrating (except for the Saudis and Kim Jong) Your commander-in-tweet turned our country into his personal petri dish.  We took it back.  You get on board.  Trump’s out.

 

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3 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

If you believe estimates from the WHO after what they said at the beginning of the year, you'll clearly believe anything.

Given the gift of hindsight and full summaries of global case and death rates updated daily the estimate seems quite accurate 

 

Pretty close to your own.  Must sting after parroting trump’s WHO-bashing for him.

 

International oil / petrochemical companies probably see numbers you don’t see.  It has to do with they can’t shut down.  Ever.

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Sorry, Bub. In the United States the media does not decide the election.  "It ain't over till it's over", and that wont be for some time. From the United States, to Switzerland,  to Iraq... the world knows the crime the Democratic party is trying to commit. It is an "in your face" moment by the Democrats, and everyone knows. There is a long, although possibly futile, court battle ahead. It is criminal what has happened, and the Left should be ashamed, but they wont be, because that is the times 

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