Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House, Fox News projects

[Dashinka 24,655]

3 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Tell that to Xerox or Zoom

Xerox or Zoom?

 

6 minutes ago, moxy said:

As @Ban Hammer has suggested, if you believe a TOS violation has occurred, then follow the proper reporting channels.

 

Edited to add: and this google side trek has pretty much shown me you have no interest in actual discussion of the topic at hand. That's unfortunate.

Considering you did not do your research by actually reading the forensic report, I suppose I can say the same thing about your interest in this.

[moxy 1,051]

1 minute ago, Dashinka said:

Xerox or Zoom?

 

Considering you did not do your research by actually reading the forensic report, I suppose I can say the same thing about your interest in this.

I literally offered to do this research for you several posts back. Literally offered my own time, and all I asked was that you respect the time I put in to do that. But ok.

 

[Crtcl Rice Theory 2,432]

8 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Xerox or Zoom?

 

 

Xerox, Google and Zoom are companies, products and verbs

[Dashinka 24,655]

Just now, CanAm1980 said:

Xerox, Google and Zoom are companies, products and verbs

Yes, they are companies, but when I make copies, I make copies, when I have a video meeting, I am in a meeting.

[Dashinka 24,655]

7 minutes ago, moxy said:

I literally offered to do this research for you several posts back. Literally offered my own time, and all I asked was that you respect the time I put in to do that. But ok.

 

I asked you for the full report from CISA and you deflected just as you are now.  As I have said, I could not care less about the Trump stuff, but the Antrim County forensic audit is quite interesting.  I am still wondering why a country with Townships where there are very few votes would use machines at all.  I suppose some bureaucrat was wined and dined.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

15 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Considering you did not do your research by actually reading the forensic report, I suppose I can say the same thing about your interest in this.

This is why I'm paying attention to things happening on the ground, people in over a dozen states putting in the work to ensure fair elections and overcome barriers to oversight, and largely avoiding the bad faith mess seen up and down discussions like this. It's merely a distraction. Just like this morning when Nevada Senator Rosen's response, to the claims of people on the ground trying to monitor elections issuing formal complaints, was to recite moronic Russia conspiracies and insult everyone who came forward. Just like with the litany of affidavits describing Democrat "poll watchers" not really monitoring the process (ensuring ballots were legally cast) but being "GOP poll watcher watchers" trying to get them kicked out of places and prevent their oversight, you see the bad faith efforts to undermine all over the place. Unfortunately this is the way things are.

Edited December 16, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Dashinka 24,655]

Just now, Burnt Reynolds said:

This is why I'm paying attention to things happening on the ground, people in over a dozen states putting in the work to ensure fair elections and overcome barriers to oversight, and largely avoiding the bad faith mess seen up and down discussions like this. It's merely a distraction. Just like this morning when Nevada Senator Rosen's response, to the claims of people on the ground trying to monitor elections issuing formal complaints, was to recite moronic Russia conspiracies. Just like with the litany of affidavits describing Democrat "poll watchers" not really monitoring the process (ensuring ballots were legally cast) but being "GOP poll watcher watchers" trying to get them kicked out of places and prevent their oversight, you see the bad faith efforts to undermine all over the place. Unfortunately this is the way things are.

Elections are all local!  I can certainly see the Democrats employing tactics like that.

[moxy 1,051]

2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I asked you for the full report from CISA and you deflected just as you are now.  As I have said, I could not care less about the Trump stuff, but the Antrim County forensic audit is quite interesting.  I am still wondering why a country with Townships where there are very few votes would use machines at all.  I suppose some bureaucrat was wined and dined.

Again, I literally offered to do that research for you. You're using the word "deflected" wrong--perhaps you should google it. Anyway, done with this line of silliness. I'm sure that's deflecting too. Have fun.

[Dashinka 24,655]

1 minute ago, moxy said:

Again, I literally offered to do that research for you. You're using the word "deflected" wrong--perhaps you should google it. Anyway, done with this line of silliness. I'm sure that's deflecting too. Have fun.

This whole thing started when I asked you a simple question, do you have a link to the full CISA report conducted?  You keep saying you would do the research, still waiting.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

4 hours ago, moxy said:

I didn't say that. I'm telling you how the system works. You asked a hypothetical question, that's how things would go down in that hypothetical situation.

So you admit that you would be ok with Biden continuing to be President even after it comes out that Trump should be President? Stop skirting around the edges and answer the question

[Ban Hammer 13,445]

1 hour ago, moxy said:

As @Ban Hammer has suggested, if you believe a TOS violation has occurred, then follow the proper reporting channels.

 

that also goes for when you feel something racist has been posted.....

[moxy 1,051]

6 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So you admit that you would be ok with Biden continuing to be President even after it comes out that Trump should be President? Stop skirting around the edges and answer the question

I didn't skirt, I answered the question.

 

If you want my opinion on if, in the hypothetical scenario that voter fraud happened to the extent that Biden won the election when Trump should have actually won, then it depends:

- Was Biden involved in this hypothetical fraud? Then no, I would not want him to be President. I would expect he steps down (and then faces criminal charges) or is impeached (and then faces criminal charges)

- If Biden was involved, and Harris was involved also, then once Biden steps down or is impeached from office, Harris should also step down and/or be impeached and face criminal charges. At that point we would have a President Pelosi.

- If Biden and Harris were not involved, then no, I don't think they should step down. Having said that, I would expect he would understand and make clear that his presidency is in no way a mandate, and is only legitimate by the letter of the law.

 

In no case would, or should, Trump be retroactively made President for a second term. There is no constitutional mechanism or law that would allow that. I would be opposed to any extra-constitutional action.

2 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

that also goes for when you feel something racist has been posted.....

I did not suggest a TOS violation had occurred when you posted the racist reply, so we're all good.

[Ban Hammer 13,445]

1 minute ago, moxy said:

I did not suggest a TOS violation had occurred when you posted the racist reply, so we're all good.

no, "we" are not.  either it was, and you failed to report it - or it was not, and you were trolling.
which is it?

[moxy 1,051]

1 minute ago, Ban Hammer said:

no, "we" are not.  either it was, and you failed to report it - or it was not, and you were trolling.
which is it?

If you feel a post from days ago warrants a violation then you should do what you feel is necessary. Personally I feel like if you thought it had been actionable trolling then you would have done it then, and that taking action now would just be petty revenge because you don't like my politics or whatever, but again: do whatever moderation you feel is necessary, or let's get back on topic.

[Ban Hammer 13,445]

5 minutes ago, moxy said:

If you feel a post from days ago warrants a violation then you should do what you feel is necessary. Personally I feel like if you thought it had been actionable trolling then you would have done it then, and that taking action now would just be petty revenge because you don't like my politics or whatever, but again: do whatever moderation you feel is necessary, or let's get back on topic.

i'll take that as you were trolling.

as this thread has gotten well off the original path it was intended, it is now closed.

Edited December 16, 2020 by Ban Hammer