Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House, Fox News projects

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14 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Do you have a link to their analysis report?

Did yo want to wade through the analysis or did you just want their summary:

 

JOINT STATEMENT FROM ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES

Original release date: November 12, 2020

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WASHINGTON – The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC) – Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems & Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works) - released the following statement:

“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result. 

“When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”

 

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[Dashinka 24,505]

10 minutes ago, moxy said:

If I spend the time to dig it back up, will you spend the time to cite your reliable sources claiming the software was compromised and that it was updated multiple times? Will you also spend the time to actually read it, and not just brush it aside because it doesn't support your narrative?

Interesting deflection.  I had never heard that CISA was involved in the Michigan investigation.  I read the report from the company that did it, and I understand that the legal challenge is still ongoing with a trial date set for the first quarter next year, so apparently if CISA was involved, the judge hasn't dismissed the case yet.

[Dashinka 24,505]

7 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Did yo want to wade through the analysis or did you just want their summary:

 

JOINT STATEMENT FROM ELECTIONS INFRASTRUCTURE GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COUNCIL & THE ELECTION INFRASTRUCTURE SECTOR COORDINATING EXECUTIVE COMMITTEES

Original release date: November 12, 2020

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WASHINGTON – The members of Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) Executive Committee – Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) Assistant Director Bob Kolasky, U.S. Election Assistance Commission Chair Benjamin Hovland, National Association of Secretaries of State (NASS) President Maggie Toulouse Oliver, National Association of State Election Directors (NASED) President Lori Augino, and Escambia County (Florida) Supervisor of Elections David Stafford – and the members of the Election Infrastructure Sector Coordinating Council (SCC) – Chair Brian Hancock (Unisyn Voting Solutions), Vice Chair Sam Derheimer (Hart InterCivic), Chris Wlaschin (Election Systems & Software), Ericka Haas (Electronic Registration Information Center), and Maria Bianchi (Democracy Works) - released the following statement:

“The November 3rd election was the most secure in American history. Right now, across the country, election officials are reviewing and double checking the entire election process prior to finalizing the result. 

“When states have close elections, many will recount ballots. All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised.

“Other security measures like pre-election testing, state certification of voting equipment, and the U.S. Election Assistance Commission’s (EAC) certification of voting equipment help to build additional confidence in the voting systems used in 2020.

“While we know there are many unfounded claims and opportunities for misinformation about the process of our elections, we can assure you we have the utmost confidence in the security and integrity of our elections, and you should too. When you have questions, turn to elections officials as trusted voices as they administer elections.”

 

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So this does not address the Michigan case at all.

[moxy 1,051]

13 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Interesting deflection.  I had never heard that CISA was involved in the Michigan investigation.  I read the report from the company that did it, and I understand that the legal challenge is still ongoing with a trial date set for the first quarter next year, so apparently if CISA was involved, the judge hasn't dismissed the case yet.

Not a deflection, it was a serious answer. It's just that putting any time into answers I give has had little payoff in the past. I research an answer, spend time on it, and the reply I get is basically "tl;dr" or "lies from the fake media" or some other brush off. CISA did say that, it's easily googlable if you're interested in doing it yourself, but I'm also happy to do it if you would just give me the courtesy of putting serious thought into it.

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Just now, moxy said:

Not a deflection, it was a serious answer. It's just that putting any time into answers I give has had little payoff in the past. I research an answer, spend time on it, and the reply I get is basically "tl;dr" or "lies from the fake media" or some other brush off. CISA did say that, it's easily googlable if you're interested in doing it yourself, but I'm also happy to do it if you would just give me the courtesy of putting serious thought into it.

So did you read the forensic report for Antrim County?  Btw, Google is a company, not a verb.

[moxy 1,051]

15 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

So this does not address the Michigan case at all.

It literally said "All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."

 

This would include Michigan. If it had not included Michigan, they would have said "All of the states except Michigan."

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3 minutes ago, moxy said:

Not a deflection, it was a serious answer. It's just that putting any time into answers I give has had little payoff in the past. I research an answer, spend time on it, and the reply I get is basically "tl;dr" or "lies from the fake media" or some other brush off. CISA did say that, it's easily googlable if you're interested in doing it yourself, but I'm also happy to do it if you would just give me the courtesy of putting serious thought into it.

I admire your patience 

[moxy 1,051]

Just now, Dashinka said:

Btw, Google is a company, not a verb.

lol. The verb "to google" is a colloquial expression that has been accepted in normal, everyday speech for several decades. But you know that. You don't have a problem with using google as a verb. Don't be that person.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

3 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

  Btw, Google is a company, not a verb.

It's both

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6 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

It's both

Not really, the second one is just a construct by people that are lazy.

[moxy 1,051]

1 minute ago, Dashinka said:

Not really, the second one is just a construct by people that are lazy.

Tell ya what. Me and the rest of the world will continue to use google as a verb, just as we'll use kleenex as a generic word for facial tissue. If this bothers you to the point that you're willing to derail a thread over it, maybe find a safe space away from the internet. Because everybody googles whether you like it or not.

[Dashinka 24,505]

17 minutes ago, moxy said:

It literally said "All of the states with close results in the 2020 presidential race have paper records of each vote, allowing the ability to go back and count each ballot if necessary. This is an added benefit for security and resilience. This process allows for the identification and correction of any mistakes or errors. There is no evidence that any voting system deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised."

 

This would include Michigan. If it had not included Michigan, they would have said "All of the states except Michigan."

I am speaking specifically of the case in Antrim County Michigan.  As far as I know that legal proceeding is continuing and the forensic report is telling and deserves more review unless you think they are simply making it up.  Btw, this case has nothing to do with Trump, but is related to a down ballot question.

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6 minutes ago, moxy said:

Tell ya what. Me and the rest of the world will continue to use google as a verb, just as we'll use kleenex as a generic word for facial tissue. If this bothers you to the point that you're willing to derail a thread over it, maybe find a safe space away from the internet. Because everybody googles whether you like it or not.

You do realize suggesting someone not post a comment is against the TOS right?  And quite frankly, not everyone "Googles" they may search the internet as there are other less intrusive search engines out there.

[moxy 1,051]

10 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

You do realize suggesting someone not post a comment is against the TOS right?  And quite frankly, not everyone "Googles" they may search the internet as there are other less intrusive search engines out there.

As @Ban Hammer has suggested, if you believe a TOS violation has occurred, then follow the proper reporting channels.

 

Edited to add: and this google side trek has pretty much shown me you have no interest in actual discussion of the topic at hand. That's unfortunate.

Edited December 16, 2020 by moxy

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30 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

So did you read the forensic report for Antrim County?  Btw, Google is a company, not a verb.

Tell that to Xerox or Zoom