Biden wins presidency, Trump denied second term in White House, Fox News projects

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4 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

All of this can be summed up by "Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth." Trump just repeated and repeated his lie that he won and that he election was fraudulent and his supporters just started believing it. It doesn't matter that his own lawyer Rudy Giuliani said in court "This is not a fraud case". Truth is irrelevant. 

 

This reminds me of a game my husband and I like to play with friends in non pandemic times. The game is called "Secret Hitler" and the premise is that there are secret fascists that sabotage the game. If you're a "fascist", you can just loudly start accusing someone else of sabotaging the game and you repeat this ad nauseam and your friends start believing it and they often "kill" the innocent. It's a fun game but it perfectly demonstrates how just repeating a lie over and over can make people believe it's true. 

 

That's what the Dear Leader is doing. He's a professional fraudster (Trump University anyone?). He knows how to lie confidently. He committed financial crimes even before he was president. That's why I hope he does go to prison. 

 

I find it very disturbing how many people in the US love strongmen. They will just follow whatever the Dear Leader tells them it's true, even claiming that Fox News (a conservative propaganda station) is fake news if they're not sucking up to their Dear Leader enough and are at least somewhat based in reality. It's very, very concerning. I'm afraid that the idea that the election was stolen will live on for years in many people's heads, just like the idea that vaccines cause autism. Disinformation is dangerous. 

Speaking of ad nauseam, it's nice to see Hitler and fascism entering a discussion about how other people aren't rational.

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4 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

 

That's what the Dear Leader is doing. He's a professional fraudster (Trump University anyone?). He knows how to lie confidently. He committed financial crimes even before he was president. That's why I hope he does go to prison. 

 

 

Grifters gonna grift

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/us/politics/trump-university.html

 

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The settlement is a significant reversal from Mr. Trump, who had steadfastly rejected the allegations and vowed to fight the lawsuits, asserting that students filled out evaluations showing they were mostly happy with what they had learned in seminars. When political opponents pressed him on the claims during the campaign, Mr. Trump doubled down, saying he would eventually reopen Trump University.

“It’s something I could have settled many times,” Mr. Trump said during a debate in February. “I could settle it right now for very little money, but I don’t want to do it out of principle.”

He added, “The people that took the course all signed — most — many — many signed report cards saying it was fantastic, it was wonderful, it was beautiful.”

 

funny how blind supporters would try to justify this and then say "Hey all politicians lie" but none at the level and the scale of this fraudster, just like his fraud university.

 

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44 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Speaking of ad nauseam, it's nice to see Hitler and fascism entering a discussion about how other people aren't rational.

That was just a reference to the game, not a commentary on how Trump is  or is not a fascist. You can change the name of the game to "Secret betrayer" and the point will stand. 

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33 minutes ago, Orangesapples said:

That was just a reference to the game, not a commentary on how Trump is  or is not a fascist. You can change the name of the game to "Secret betrayer" and the point will stand. 

It reminds me of a game I used to play to amuse myself at a campus job. I worked in the library and one of the tasks I had was to enter basic information about the oldest issues of the college newspaper from microfilm (!!) into a database: volume, issue, date, headlines from front page. This was preparation for digitizing the entire catalogue from the late 19th century. Anyway it was as you might think very tedious work, and I was stuck in a basement alone with a giant microfilm machine and a laptop, going back and forth, back and forth. I needed to stay awake to do the job obviously, and often I found myself dozing. 

 

So the game I came up with was called "Oppressed Socialist Worker." You are a worker in an oppressive socialist state, and you are made to enter information from microfilm into a database that hardly anyone will ever look at. You aren't sure whether your job was created just to keep you from creating trouble out in greater society. Occasionally someone comes down and asks if you want a coffee, but you usually say no because the coffee is pretty disgusting. There are two modes: (1) You work as quickly and efficiently as you can, because there is the ever-present threat of even more oppression if you do not meet your targets. You get to feel a little like a martyr, and explore how wretched your life is, which in itself is satisfying in a way because you have a martyr complex. (2) You work as slowly as you can, because you want to stick it to your oppressors. You still do everything perfectly, it's just slooooooooow. And because you haven't been given an actual target -- in fact, you know you will not finish this job before you graduate because there are literally 100+ years of daily newspapers to go through -- and the oppressors don't know how fast you should be going, you can go very, very slow. And take naps.

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4 hours ago, laylalex said:

It reminds me of a game I used to play to amuse myself at a campus job. I worked in the library and one of the tasks I had was to enter basic information about the oldest issues of the college newspaper from microfilm (!!) into a database: volume, issue, date, headlines from front page. This was preparation for digitizing the entire catalogue from the late 19th century. Anyway it was as you might think very tedious work, and I was stuck in a basement alone with a giant microfilm machine and a laptop, going back and forth, back and forth. I needed to stay awake to do the job obviously, and often I found myself dozing. 

 

So the game I came up with was called "Oppressed Socialist Worker." You are a worker in an oppressive socialist state, and you are made to enter information from microfilm into a database that hardly anyone will ever look at. You aren't sure whether your job was created just to keep you from creating trouble out in greater society. Occasionally someone comes down and asks if you want a coffee, but you usually say no because the coffee is pretty disgusting. There are two modes: (1) You work as quickly and efficiently as you can, because there is the ever-present threat of even more oppression if you do not meet your targets. You get to feel a little like a martyr, and explore how wretched your life is, which in itself is satisfying in a way because you have a martyr complex. (2) You work as slowly as you can, because you want to stick it to your oppressors. You still do everything perfectly, it's just slooooooooow. And because you haven't been given an actual target -- in fact, you know you will not finish this job before you graduate because there are literally 100+ years of daily newspapers to go through -- and the oppressors don't know how fast you should be going, you can go very, very slow. And take naps.

Are you sure you have siblings? This sure sounds like the creative thought patterns of an only child.

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1 minute ago, CanAm1980 said:

Are you sure you have siblings? This sure sounds like the creative thought patterns of an only child.

I very much have an older sister, who found (still finds) me completely embarrassing and an absolute dork. She would only play with me under duress or if lavishly bribed. So I made up games to entertain myself. I also ran around with a crew of dorks, which only compounded things, I think. 

 

I think if I had been in college when there were smartphones I might never have come up with this, not that there was any reception in that basement on my cell phone. 

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14 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

They will just follow whatever the Dear Leader tells them it's true, even claiming that Fox News (a conservative propaganda station) is fake news 

Let's put in perspective what the true definition of "Propaganda" is;

 

prop·a·gan·da

/ˌpräpəˈɡandə/

information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

 

Honestly and objectively, Isn't this what CNN and MSNBC do each and every day? 

 

There is "News" and there is "Opinion" sadly many viewers who watch news networks in general are unable to distinguish between the two.  With Sean Hannity or Laura Ingram, they deliver "Opinion",  a bias version of the daily news,  With News shows such as "Special Report" or "The Journal Editorial Report" of the Fox News network, you're getting actual news, news that viewers can use to form their own opinion. CNN and MSNBC has NONE of that,  they spoon feed their version of the daily news to viewers, there is bias with almost every sentence that comes out of their mouths, there are NO opposing viewpoints either,  conservative journalists are gone, replaced with paid contributors who push the same bias and misleading narratives as theirs,  delivering to viewers a distorted version of the news, all for political gain.  prop·a·gan·da

 

CNN and MSNBC are in no way deserving of the word "News" they have abandoned all neutrality in their reporting, they have both become activist Networks who are favorable to one party, the Democrats.. These are two networks that cover up the news, intentionally failing to report on any story that could damage a "particular political cause", In this case a senile old man who's under Federal investigation for money laundering.

 

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by nykolos

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3 minutes ago, nykolos said:

 

Let's put in perspective what the true definition of "Propaganda" is;

 

.... These are two networks that cover up the news, intentionally failing to report on any story that could damage a "particular political cause", In this case a senile old man who's under Federal investigation for money laundering.

 

 

How does a senile old man pull off money laundering?

Edited December 11, 2020 by CanAm1980

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5 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

How does a senile old man pull off money laundering?

with the help of his son

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9 minutes ago, nykolos said:

 

Let's put in perspective what the true definition of "Propaganda" is;

 

prop·a·gan·da

/ˌpräpəˈɡandə/

information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

 

Honestly and objectively, Isn't this what CNN and MSNBC do each and every day? 

 

There is "News" and there is "Opinion" sadly many viewers who watch news networks in general are unable to distinguish between the two.  With Sean Hannity or Laura Ingram, they deliver "Opinion",  a bias version of the daily news,  With News shows such as "Special Report" or "The Journal Editorial Report" of the Fox News network, you're getting actual news, news that viewers can use to form their own opinion. CNN and MSNBC has NONE of that,  they spoon feed their version of the daily news to viewers, there is bias with almost every sentence that comes out of their mouths, there are NO opposing viewpoints either,  conservative journalists are gone, replaced with paid contributors who push the same bias and misleading narratives as theirs,  delivering to viewers a distorted version of the news, all for political gain.  prop·a·gan·da

 

CNN and MSNBC are in no way deserving of the word "News" they have abandoned all neutrality in their reporting, they have both become activist Networks who are favorable to one party, the Democrats.. These are two networks that cover up the news, intentionally failing to report on any story that could damage a "particular political cause", In this case a senile old man who's under Federal investigation for money laundering.

 

 

Irrelevant 

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Just now, Boiler said:

with the help of his son

Which one ? Eric, Don Jr or Barron? Barron is definitely the brains of the operation.

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2 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

How does a senile old man pull money laundering?

You'll have to ask CNN's Chief Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin, pulling while making money is his specialty. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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6 hours ago, Orangesapples said:

Irrelevant 

On the contrary, you increased the relevance of my post in google's SE by quoting it,  

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6 hours ago, Boiler said:

with the help of his son

Look for Joe to appoint a wing man as Attorney General to obstruct or end the Federal investigation. it's the least Joe could do for his drug addict son who he used to enrich himself.

 

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5 hours ago, nykolos said:

Look for Joe to appoint a wing man as Attorney General to obstruct or end the Federal investigation. it's the least Joe could do for his drug addict son who he used to enrich himself.

 

It's entertaining to me that you could replace "Joe" in this quote with "Donald" and it would be pretty accurate.