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16 hours ago, laylalex said:

What I understand is that the Supreme Court can only hear certain cases that come up through the state courts, and that's only where there's a federal law question involved. 

 

When SCOTUS heard the PA issue and then punted, there was from my understanding a question of whether the PA courts were trying to create rights that conflicted with PA statute. The constitution gives the legislatures the rights to make their own election laws, and I think the issue is whether the courts were trying to do something only the legislature can do. That to me DOES sound like a federal issue -- if the US Constitution says only legislatures can make election laws, it is a violation of the US Constitution for a PA court to try to make election law if they are not empowered to do so. 

 

But if you have legislatures and courts of a state both saying: these are our duly enacted laws and we are interpreting them correctly, what is there for SCOTUS to decide?

The PA thing needs to be cleaned up as there are a lot of questions.  That being said, I doubt any court would negate the results of the most recent election given the voters were following what was perceived as the law at the time.

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28 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

The PA thing needs to be cleaned up as there are a lot of questions.  That being said, I doubt any court would negate the results of the most recent election given the voters were following what was perceived as the law at the time.

I don’t know what questions in PA needs to be answered, but if there are questions need answering I don’t think SCOTUS is the venue.

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31 minutes ago, moxy said:

I don’t know what questions in PA needs to be answered, but if there are questions need answering I don’t think SCOTUS is the venue.

I don't usually quote myself (people might think you're drunk, for one), but I think this is the issue in PA:

17 hours ago, laylalex said:

When SCOTUS heard the PA issue and then punted, there was from my understanding a question of whether the PA courts were trying to create rights that conflicted with PA statute. The constitution gives the legislatures the rights to make their own election laws, and I think the issue is whether the courts were trying to do something only the legislature can do. That to me DOES sound like a federal issue -- if the US Constitution says only legislatures can make election laws, it is a violation of the US Constitution for a PA court to try to make election law if they are not empowered to do so. 

But like you I am not a lawyer (I did take the LSAT once but that doesn't count) and this is only what I think is happening from reading around a bit on this.

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42 minutes ago, laylalex said:

When SCOTUS heard the PA issue and then punted, there was from my understanding a question of whether the PA courts were trying to create rights that conflicted with PA statute. The constitution gives the legislatures the rights to make their own election laws, and I think the issue is whether the courts were trying to do something only the legislature can do. That to me DOES sound like a federal issue -- if the US Constitution says only legislatures can make election laws, it is a violation of the US Constitution for a PA court to try to make election law if they are not empowered to do so. 

Yeah, that does sound like a problem. I don’t know how that works if a court steps on the legislature’s turf. Maybe that actually is reason for SCOTUS to step in. But if they punted, seems like the only recourse would be for the legislature to pass a new law to clarify the intent of the law. I guess? (not a lawyer disclaimer holds)

 

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21 minutes ago, moxy said:

 

Yeah, that does sound like a problem. I don’t know how that works if a court steps on the legislature’s turf. Maybe that actually is reason for SCOTUS to step in. But if they punted, seems like the only recourse would be for the legislature to pass a new law to clarify the intent of the law. I guess? (not a lawyer disclaimer holds)

 

I guess too? Not sure. I was just on the phone with my mom, I should have asked my dad who actually IS a lawyer.

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2 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I guess too? Not sure. I was just on the phone with my mom, I should have asked my dad who actually IS a lawyer.

Do you get a family discount if you ask him? :D 

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I'm  back! For the moment. A boring Sunday night here in Germany. Am watching a German documentary on World War II. Did you know they make every German student visit a concentration camp here? I didnt know that until recently. 

 

Anyway, "the kid", as he is fondly known as here, has an A average in every subject...math, science, social studies, English and language arts, PE... but he is only 10. But I shared only the math and science grades because those are the BEST of his A average, compared to all the other A average classes. Shame on me. For example, he only has a 92% average in English Language Arts, and 91% average in Social Studies. But we are working on it! Thanks for your interest and concern. 😁  I know, "a village", right? Sheesh. Wrong. It is me, the father, and him. The "village" would choose an inferior destiny for him. But anyway, he wants to be a fighter pilot. It will be interesting to see what he does with his life. He is pretty bright, and a Conservative 

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33 minutes ago, JoBri said:

I'm  back! For the moment. A boring Sunday night here in Germany. Am watching a German documentary on World War II. Did you know they make every German student visit a concentration camp here? I didnt know that until recently. 

 

Anyway, "the kid", as he is fondly known as here, has an A average in every subject...math, science, social studies, English and language arts, PE... but he is only 10. But I shared only the math and science grades because those are the BEST of his A average, compared to all the other A average classes. Shame on me. For example, he only has a 92% average in English Language Arts, and 91% average in Social Studies. But we are working on it! Thanks for your interest and concern. 😁  I know, "a village", right? Sheesh. Wrong. It is me, the father, and him. The "village" would choose an inferior destiny for him. But anyway, he wants to be a fighter pilot. It will be interesting to see what he does with his life. He is pretty bright, and a Conservative 

Your son is very lucky to have a dedicated father like you. Kudos! Hope you enjoy the German christmas markets. Thats one thing I miss here

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22 minutes ago, designguy said:

Your son is very lucky to have a dedicated father like you. Kudos! Hope you enjoy the German christmas markets. Thats one thing I miss here

We did last year. Christmas is cancelled here this year because of COVID. Last night I watched a live stream of German police stopping all drivers in Mannheim to check if they have documents to prove they can be on the streets. A Biden utopia! 

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29 minutes ago, designguy said:

Your son is very lucky to have a dedicated father like you. Kudos! Hope you enjoy the German christmas markets. Thats one thing I miss here

And thank you, about my son. I am lucky. He works so hard independently that pretty much all I have to do with him is help guide with review before exams. I also go over it with homework when he misses stuff. But for us, anything less than a B is failing, and he and I both only want the best for his future 

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1 hour ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Origins of the right wing voting machine<->Venezuela conspiracies were found! :

So the Biden legal team will for sure be showing this in court, as proof of fraud right?

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