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Hi everyone, I am uber confused about GC processes for CR1 visa holders, and would really appreciate if you help me sort it out. I entered on October 15th 2020 on CR1. Received my SSN on Oct 27th, and then I could not remember how to apply/receive a green card. 

 

Question #1 Green card

I was reading a separate thread on this forum, and it sounded like other CR1 holders receive their green cards in mail just like the SSN. So, if I understood correctly, then I don't have to file a separate form " adjustment of status" (at least not now, but 90 days before our 2 year anniversary) in order to receive my first green card, because it will come in mail in some 120 days? 

 

Question #2 immigration fee

Also, I can't remember what date we paid the immigration fee, but I wanna say it was at the same time with the visa application form (on USCIS account) after my I-130 was approved (late May -early June). I can't access those records right now to see how much it was or when it was paid, is there a way to find that out? Is this immigration fee for the green card? 

 

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The $220 Green Card fee is paid after the visa interview .  The plastic Green Card will not be sent until:

1.  The $220 fee has been paid online.

2.  The new immigrant has entered the US.

 

The fee is paid here:  https://my.uscis.gov/uscis-immigrant-fee/start-payment

 

 

Edited by Lucky Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

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In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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You need to find out if you have paid 220. And it takes up to 120 days for green cảrd to come.

N400

12/06/2014: Package filed

12/31/2014: Fingerprinted

02/06/2015: In-Line for Interview

04/15/2015: Passed Interview

05/05/2015: Oath letter was sent

05/22/2015: Oath Ceremony

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Thank you! Turns out I missed that part from the e-mail that was sent to me after I received my visa. I do remember that after the visa interview when I asked about the fee, they said you won't have to pay it here, it has already been paid in America... 

 

And thank you for providing the link, I read a lot of things but could not find info on late payments. They all mention that the fee must be paid before entering, but obviously, in my case I am late for that. Does anybody know the complications/penalties for paying after you arrive? 

I could not pay it online either right now, it says they can't find the A number and/or the DOS case ID, so I sent an email to USCIS about it. 

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1 minute ago, Ohana2020 said:

Thank you! Turns out I missed that part from the e-mail that was sent to me after I received my visa. I do remember that after the visa interview when I asked about the fee, they said you won't have to pay it here, it has already been paid in America... 

 

And thank you for providing the link, I read a lot of things but could not find info on late payments. They all mention that the fee must be paid before entering, but obviously, in my case I am late for that. Does anybody know the complications/penalties for paying after you arrive? 

I could not pay it online either right now, it says they can't find the A number and/or the DOS case ID, so I sent an email to USCIS about it. 

A number and DOS case can be found on your visa. You need to start archiving your important papers, documents...

N400

12/06/2014: Package filed

12/31/2014: Fingerprinted

02/06/2015: In-Line for Interview

04/15/2015: Passed Interview

05/05/2015: Oath letter was sent

05/22/2015: Oath Ceremony

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4 minutes ago, Ohana2020 said:

They all mention that the fee must be paid before entering, but obviously, in my case I am late for that. Does anybody know the complications/penalties for paying after you arrive?

It does not have to be paid before entry.  The only penalty will be receiving the green card later.

Edited by Lucky Cat

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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40 minutes ago, Ohana2020 said:

Thank you! Turns out I missed that part from the e-mail that was sent to me after I received my visa. I do remember that after the visa interview when I asked about the fee, they said you won't have to pay it here, it has already been paid in America... 

 

And thank you for providing the link, I read a lot of things but could not find info on late payments. They all mention that the fee must be paid before entering, but obviously, in my case I am late for that. Does anybody know the complications/penalties for paying after you arrive? 

I could not pay it online either right now, it says they can't find the A number and/or the DOS case ID, so I sent an email to USCIS about it. 

According to your own posts here,  the fee has already been paid from  someone in Amercia

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55 minutes ago, Ohana2020 said:

Thank you! Turns out I missed that part from the e-mail that was sent to me after I received my visa. I do remember that after the visa interview when I asked about the fee, they said you won't have to pay it here, it has already been paid in America... 

 

You must have misunderstood. K-1 applicants pay a MRV fee (visa fee) at the embassy. But CR-1 applicants pay their visa fee to the NVC as part of that step. If you asked about the visa fee, they correctly told you that it has already been paid.

 

The green card fee is another fee to cover the cost of making and sending the plastic green card. It cannot be paid before the visa is issued because until the visa is issued you are not approved for immigration. A green card is an extremely valuable and much-desired document as it enables the person to live and work permanently in the US. People in some countries will go to extraordinary lengths to get their hands on one - even illegal lengths. Therefore the invoice is only generated once the person has been approved to immigrate and the card is only manufactured once the fee has been paid and the person has actually arrived within the timeframe specified on the visa. It's all part of the process to make sure that people are fully vetted before they immigrate and have complied with all requirements before a GC is issued. 

Timeline in brief:

Married: September 27, 2014

I-130 filed: February 5, 2016

NOA1: February 8, 2016 Nebraska

NOA2: July 21, 2016

Interview: December 6, 2016 London

POE: December 19, 2016 Las Vegas

N-400 filed: September 30, 2019

Interview: March 22, 2021 Seattle

Oath: March 22, 2021 COVID-style same-day oath

 

Now a US citizen!

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19 hours ago, JeanneAdil said:

According to your own posts here,  the fee has already been paid from  someone in Amercia

That is not possible as nobody in the US could pay for me  (my spouse was with me outside of the US), and nobody knows my A # or DOS ID etc. 

The person who said this was a local staff member at the embassy, and I guess he meant " you will pay it in America" not " it's been paid in America". Which, either way it is not completely the case.

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19 hours ago, JFH said:

You must have misunderstood. K-1 applicants pay a MRV fee (visa fee) at the embassy. But CR-1 applicants pay their visa fee to the NVC as part of that step. If you asked about the visa fee, they correctly told you that it has already been paid.

 

The green card fee is another fee to cover the cost of making and sending the plastic green card. It cannot be paid before the visa is issued because until the visa is issued you are not approved for immigration. A green card is an extremely valuable and much-desired document as it enables the person to live and work permanently in the US. People in some countries will go to extraordinary lengths to get their hands on one - even illegal lengths. Therefore the invoice is only generated once the person has been approved to immigrate and the card is only manufactured once the fee has been paid and the person has actually arrived within the timeframe specified on the visa. It's all part of the process to make sure that people are fully vetted before they immigrate and have complied with all requirements before a GC is issued. 

Thank you very much for laying out the details, JFH. I definitely did not confuse it with the K visa or the visa application fee, because if I did not pay the visa application fee I would not have been able to get an appointment for the interview in the first place. I knew there is a fee I have to pay, and some sources I read said that you either pay it at the relevant Embassy or when you enter the country. I asked at the Embassy and they said " it's been paid", I asked the officer upon entering the states and they said no need to pay here :) Hence is the confusion. 

I guess there is actually a problem with my registration # or the DOS case ID because when I tried to pay online yesterday I received an error message.

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