2020 Election Thread

[designguy 1,179]

2 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

This isn't a tweet but a actual news article. 
 

 

This is just a desperate final attempt. At some point they are going to need to accept that Trump isnt going to be president in a few months

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 minute ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

This isn't a tweet but a actual news article. 
 

 

 

   It is a tweet that is implying that a 6000 vote glitch in one county should/could be extrapolated to every county in every battleground state with no actual evidence just because they use the same software. A judge isn't falling for that line.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

 

   Trump <30000 behind in Arizona now. It's going to be close either way, and seems likely to be another state where someone will want a recount. We'll be having the same discussions next Friday as they do this all over.

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

14 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   It is a tweet that is implying that a 6000 vote glitch in one county should/could be extrapolated to every county in every battleground state with no actual evidence just because they use the same software. A judge isn't falling for that line.

I have lived my life being optimistic but pessimistic in every way and the Marines just encouraged that way of thinking. I hope for the best but plan for the worst that helps me not to be so surprised when something goes wrong. If you notice I haven't been like this all week because I have been optimistic about the process. But now more and more things are coming out making me think huh. That is not even mentioning that AOC is talking about putting trump supporters on lists in order to "hold them accountable"

Edited November 7, 2020 by Cyberfx1024

[Steeleballz 7,550]

  Biden's lead in PA is just short of the 0.5% threshold to avoid a mandatory recount. Chances are high that he exceeds that margin by the time they finish.

[designguy 1,179]

5 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

That is not even mentioning that AOC is talking about putting trump supporters on lists in order to "hold them accountable"

Totally unacceptable

 

 

Mark Meadows now has Corona. Anyone left in the WH who hasnt had it

Edited November 7, 2020 by designguy

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 minute ago, designguy said:

Totally unacceptable

I agree with you on that. I said something on the local politics FB page and a guy called me paranoid. I said "How am I being paranoid if she is the one tweeting this stuff out?". Since then I haven't heard anything back from him

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[Steeleballz 7,550]

11 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I have lived my life being optimistic but pessimistic in every way and the Marines just encouraged that way of thinking. I hope for the best but plan for the worst that helps me not to be so surprised when something goes wrong. If you notice I haven't been like this all week because I have been optimistic about the process. But now more and more things are coming out making me thing huh. That is not even mentioning that AOC is talking about putting trump supporters on lists in order to "hold them accountable"

 

   There is nothing wrong with your approach. I just think it's optimistic to think the SCOTUS would have any bearing on any significant aspect of the outcome. Trumps legal team will gladly take the money and pursue these issues, I'm sure. 

Edited November 7, 2020 by Steeleballz

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

2 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   There is nothing wrong with your approach. I just think it's optimistic to think the SCOTUS would have any bearing on any significant aspect of the outcome. Trumps legal team will gladly take the money and pursue these issues, I'm sure. 

 

[designguy 1,179]

4 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I agree with you on that. I said something on the local politics FB page and a guy called me paranoid. I said "How am I being paranoid if she is the one tweeting this stuff out?". Since then I haven't heard anything back from him

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I am personally not a big fan of hers. Hopefully the boringness of Joe may lead to some cooling off of both sides. I think its sorely needed to get back to a place where people can disagree about things without the need to hate them (something both sides are very much guilty of)

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

41 minutes ago, designguy said:

Probably not. If there is no reasonable expectation that a favorable outcome for the plaintiff would change the result of the election they are unlikely to hear the case. Florida in 2000 was like 500 votes. We are not talking about anything even close here

Thing is, if there are "systematic" issues (e.g. fraud, tampering), it no longer matters how "much" it is, or how widely one might perceive it, the courts and commissions then have great latitude in dealing with it, from having a huge swath of ballots thrown out to flat out ordering a new election. 

[designguy 1,179]

1 minute ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Thing is, if there are "systematic" issues (e.g. fraud, tampering), it no longer matters how "much" it is, or how widely one might perceive it, the courts and commissions then have great latitude in dealing with it, from having a huge swath of ballots thrown out to flat out ordering a new election. 

Totally agree. But the time to show the cards is now.  If they have the evidence of the systematic and substantial fraud then there are about 350 million people who want to see it. They cant even start the process in the lower courts without this let alone the SCOTUS

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

5 minutes ago, designguy said:

Totally agree. But the time to show the cards is now.  If they have the evidence of the systematic and substantial fraud then there are about 350 million people who want to see it. They cant even start the process in the lower courts without this let alone the SCOTUS

It really depends on what is being demonstrated, because in many cases there's no provable number of tampered or fraudulent ballots, that's the nature of anonymous voting. I think @Cyberfx1024 might be able to comment there as I think North Carolina had an issue like that and a new election was ordered. 

 

Right now with all the things going on, it's far too premature to call the election over, until either Trump concedes or Biden is certified the next President.

 

Did anyone post the Alito SCOTUS order giving PA til tomorrow afternoon to respond? That is a "systematic" issue, one with potential serious consequences.

Edited November 7, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Steeleballz 7,550]

5 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

I agree with you on that. I said something on the local politics FB page and a guy called me paranoid. I said "How am I being paranoid if she is the one tweeting this stuff out?". Since then I haven't heard anything back from him

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   Something I pointed out about the GOP a few times was that even after winning in 2016, after 8 years on the "losing" side, they seemed to be having an exceptionally difficult time transitioning to being able to act like winners. The honeymoon is short, and the mentality has to change if you want to accomplish anything. The GOP wasted a lot of time and before you know it, 2 years have gone by and you are on the way to being losers again.

 

  The Democrats are going to have to learn that same lesson too (if the leads hold). Since we were discussing optimism, I'm not really optimistic the democrats can change their ways either.  

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

1 minute ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

It really depends on what is being demonstrated, because in many cases there's no provable number of tampered or fraudulent ballots, that's the nature of anonymous voting. I think @Cyberfx1024 might be able to comment there as I think North Carolina had an issue like that and a new election was ordered. 

 

Right now with all the things going on, it's far too premature to call the election over, until either Trump concedes or Biden is certified the next President.

 

Did anyone post the Alito SCOTUS order giving PA til tomorrow afternoon to respond?

Yeah we did have an issue the with 9th Congressional District due to ballot harvesting which is illegal in NC. So a new election was ordered and it was conducted without issue.