2020 Election Thread

[Lemonslice 4,852]

5 minutes ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

Some veterans like him and some veterans hate him. I happen to know both sets of people. 

I'm sure both exist - I was only describing the American veterans I know personally - close enough to know they are veterans, and some of their political opinions. 

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Goofiest thing I ever heard, Trump is suing to stop the tally up in Michigan, when he is behind.

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34 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

First Repub supported there since Warren G. Harding in 1920.

They're entitled, every century or so.

Earlier, they supported Pres. McKinley and (twice) Pres. Taft.

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Have driven through Zapata a few times.  Fast-growing population area, or was.

Speed trap all the way on U.S. 83 from McAllen northwest to Laredo.

Literally cop, sheriff, and CBP cruisers every quarter-mile or so.

 

Not far from Falcon Dam and a couple of border crossings.

Crossing at the Dam featured some really ill-tempered CBP agents, if that's not a redundant phrase.

I just saw that. Also made big inroads with Hispanics in fla. 

So if Hispanics start voting more Republican,  how long before Democrats start building walls and raiding sanctuary cities

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Just now, CanAm1980 said:

stop the tally up Michigan

We don't know what's going on behind those walled-up counting rooms in Detroit.

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2 minutes ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

made big inroads with Hispanics in fla

And the Democrat Party is honestly terrified.  Several articles today -- either on thefederalist.com or amgreatness.com, or perhaps Townhall.com.  Burnt out on reading sites, or I'd ever so helpfully offer a link*.

 

*Actually, I offer myself, as the Missing Link

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   Biden has received more votes than any other presidential candidate in history and Trump has more than any other Republican presidential candidate ever. If nothing else, it's been an impressive turnout.

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Meanwhile in Nevada, civil servants move at hyperspace rates of speed understanding the the entire world anxiously awaits their results.

 

 

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So it looks like dead people have risen from the grave and voted in Michigan. 
 

 

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11 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

Goofiest thing I ever heard, Trump is suing to stop the tally up in Michigan, when he is behind.

So it is goofy to allow the counting to continue without the ability to inspect and challenge any ballots by party inspectors?  Btw, he wasn't saying to stop the vote and finalize the tally which appears to be what you are implying, but rather to stop the counting until the proper people can be in place to ensure the accuracy of the count.

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1 minute ago, Dashinka said:

So it is goofy to allow the counting to continue without the ability to inspect and challenge any ballots by party inspectors?  Btw, he wasn't saying to stop the vote and finalize the tally which appears to be what you are implying, but rather to stop the counting until the proper people can be in place to ensure the accuracy of the count.

This is inaccurate. There are a designated amount of party officials that are allowed to be at each site and every site has the allowed amount from both sides. The Republicans were trying to send even more and they were not allowed inside because they were already at capacity

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13 minutes ago, designguy said:

This is inaccurate. There are a designated amount of party officials that are allowed to be at each site and every site has the allowed amount from both sides. The Republicans were trying to send even more and they were not allowed inside because they were already at capacity

Based on the actual people on the ground, inspectors were not allowed to actually inspect the ballots and when those approved to be there left to eat or use the facilities, they were not allowed back in.

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2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Based on the actual people on the ground, inspectors were not allowed to actually inspect the ballots and when those approved to be there left to eat or use the facilities, they were not allowed back in.

Source?

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31 minutes ago, designguy said:

Source?

Fox News has reached out to Peters' press office with a request for comment. 

When it became apparent that James was in the lead last night, Sandler alleged Mark Brewer, a former state Democratic chairman, brought several busloads of lawyers and activists in TCF, “to disrupt the process.”

 

“There’s a lack of integrity there. The people of Michigan made their choice and they’ve been trying to disrupt the process. And we’re reviewing our options,” Sandler said.

Brewer, who was observing the Detroit vote counting as a volunteer lawyer, told The Associated Press he'd been at the TCF arena all day and talked with others who had been there the past couple of days. He claimed Republicans had not been denied access.

 

"This is the best absentee ballot counting operation that Detroit has ever had," he said. "They are counting ballots very efficiently, despite the obstructing tactics of the Republicans."

But a source close to James’ campaign told Fox News that poll challengers “weren’t even able to get close enough to the ballot for the voter rolls to confirm that the ballots are credible, that people didn’t already vote.”

 

Michigan’s Secretary of State previously said she was expecting 2.5 million absentee ballots. By Wednesday morning, however, that total -- the source alleged -- increased to 5.6 million, with the majority going up in places like Detroit.  

 

“And then the Wayne County Clerk (Cathy M. Garrett) … was on CNN this morning, and she didn’t know how many votes were left in Wayne County, which is where Detroit is,” the source claimed. “(Garrett) said multiple different low numbers and CNN even called her out on it.”

The source went on to claim that state election officials have "no idea" what's happening and said they're disenfranchising Republican voters in Detroit."

 

Former State Sen Patrick Colbeck, who is a registered poll watcher and was on the scene, told Fox News that what he witnessed amounted to “obfuscation and a complete lack of transparency.”

 

“We’re being expressly denied the access to the ballot count area, at the most critical time. And you know, it’s very telling,” Colbeck said.

“I can tell you right now, it’s not a free and fair election, and I’ve been watching this for quite a while. So get the word out. [Democrats] are attempting to steal the election, and the best way to go off and fight back on this is to let people know what’s happening.”

Fox News on Wednesday projected that former Vice President Joe Biden has won the state of Michigan, leaving him with just one major swing state to win before he obtains the necessary 270 votes to claim the White House.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-james-campaign-alleges-lack-of-integrity-in-vote-count

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1 hour ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

So it looks like dead people have risen from the grave and voted in Michigan. 
 

 

saw some guy born in 1850 voted in michigan too.

[designguy 1,179]

9 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Fox News has reached out to Peters' press office with a request for comment. 

When it became apparent that James was in the lead last night, Sandler alleged Mark Brewer, a former state Democratic chairman, brought several busloads of lawyers and activists in TCF, “to disrupt the process.”

 

“There’s a lack of integrity there. The people of Michigan made their choice and they’ve been trying to disrupt the process. And we’re reviewing our options,” Sandler said.

Brewer, who was observing the Detroit vote counting as a volunteer lawyer, told The Associated Press he'd been at the TCF arena all day and talked with others who had been there the past couple of days. He claimed Republicans had not been denied access.

 

"This is the best absentee ballot counting operation that Detroit has ever had," he said. "They are counting ballots very efficiently, despite the obstructing tactics of the Republicans."

But a source close to James’ campaign told Fox News that poll challengers “weren’t even able to get close enough to the ballot for the voter rolls to confirm that the ballots are credible, that people didn’t already vote.”

 

Michigan’s Secretary of State previously said she was expecting 2.5 million absentee ballots. By Wednesday morning, however, that total -- the source alleged -- increased to 5.6 million, with the majority going up in places like Detroit.  

 

“And then the Wayne County Clerk (Cathy M. Garrett) … was on CNN this morning, and she didn’t know how many votes were left in Wayne County, which is where Detroit is,” the source claimed. “(Garrett) said multiple different low numbers and CNN even called her out on it.”

The source went on to claim that state election officials have "no idea" what's happening and said they're disenfranchising Republican voters in Detroit."

 

Former State Sen Patrick Colbeck, who is a registered poll watcher and was on the scene, told Fox News that what he witnessed amounted to “obfuscation and a complete lack of transparency.”

 

“We’re being expressly denied the access to the ballot count area, at the most critical time. And you know, it’s very telling,” Colbeck said.

“I can tell you right now, it’s not a free and fair election, and I’ve been watching this for quite a while. So get the word out. [Democrats] are attempting to steal the election, and the best way to go off and fight back on this is to let people know what’s happening.”

Fox News on Wednesday projected that former Vice President Joe Biden has won the state of Michigan, leaving him with just one major swing state to win before he obtains the necessary 270 votes to claim the White House.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/john-james-campaign-alleges-lack-of-integrity-in-vote-count

Not much here. They will go to court and fight this for sure. What are their chances of success? Very slim because there is no evidence that there are illegitimate ballots

 

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“We’re being expressly denied the access to the ballot count area, at the most critical time. And you know, it’s very telling,” Colbeck said

Which they are not allowed access to anyways.... Poll watchers are not qualified election challengers. They are basic members of the public and do not have a right to have access to the ballot count area at least according to the goverment of Michigan 

 

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Poll watchers: ...

• Are not permitted to position themselves or sit behind the election inspectors’ processing table.
• Must sit or stand in the “public area” of the polling place where they will not interfere with the voting process.

https://www.michigan.gov/documents/SOS_ED_2_CHALLENGERS_77017_7.pdf