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Akhtar (the husband who apparently uttered 'talaq' thrice in his sleep) gave the chopf#ck "scholars" an answer, with backing from his dad -- basically a version of "get your head out of your a##".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4856884.stm

Muslim rejects 'sleeping divorce'

An Indian Muslim says he will not be separated from his wife, despite uttering the words necessary for divorce while he was asleep.

Akhtar, from West Bengal state, told the BBC a ruling by village elders that the couple were divorced was unfair.

Uttering the word "talaq" (I divorce you) three times allows a Muslim man to divorce his wife with immediate effect.

But Akhtar says it has no force because he did not mean it, and he and his wife both say they want to stay together.

"We have become a laughing stock... I can't stay without my husband"

Akhtar's wife, Sobena

The BBC's Amitabha Bhattasali in Calcutta says several Muslim authorities in India have spoken out against the elders' ruling, arguing that the "triple talaq" pronouncement must be intentional to be recognised.

India's minority Muslim population has its own personal laws on issues such as marriage, divorce and inheritance.

'Victimised'

Clerics in the village of Dalgaon Basti near Falakata in northern West Bengal found out about Akhtar's unfortunate pronouncement after his wife, Sobena, told friends.

"It's unfair that I'll have to leave my wife for what I said in my sleep and we are being socially boycotted"

Akhtar

News of the case arose when the couple sought advice from the local counselling centre.

Akhtar says he came home on the night in question last December and took sleeping tablets following a row with his wife.

"I uttered the 'talaq' while I was asleep. I didn't mean it," Akhtar, a worker at a local brick field, told the BBC.

"It's unfair that I'll have to leave my wife for what I said in my sleep and we are being socially boycotted by the villagers because we haven't accepted the verdict of the clerics."

Sobena says: "Enough is enough. We have become a laughing stock. Come what may, I can't stay without my husband."

Akhtar's father, Ebadat, agrees the clerics "have taken a wrong decision".

"I am victimised as I am still in touch with Akhtar. Nobody is coming to my grocery shop."

The clerics, though, are refusing to budge.

Village community leader Abbas Ansari says they have been told of the apparent mix-up.

"But they have passed a verdict that Akhtar and Sobena can't stay together till they remarry each other."

The couple registered their marriage under the special marriages act to get round the divorce ruling last week - it remains to be seen whether that will be enough.

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I get so upset when I see this kind of thing. Twisting the laws of Islam - mocking it. It's no wonder so many people believe Islam has the most ridiculous rules. If they only studied it a bit before coming to their biased conclusions perhaps there would be a little more harmony in this world.

welll.. if Abdul Crazy didn't twist the laws to start with.. I'd think people wouldn't mock the laws either..

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That law is begging for some comedy and good old fashioned mocking.

It is never acceptable, IMO, to mock somebody elses' beliefs or faith or to make a particular faith, including it's laws, an excuse for your own comical amusement.

Why not??? That makes for some good material!

How would your fiancee feel if people mocked the laws, faith and beliefs of Peruvians? If they picked on her religion time and time again? Mockery is hurtful and I don't condone it.

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Mockery is hurtful and I don't condone it.

but it is funny sometimes :yes:

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But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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How would your fiancee feel if people mocked the laws, faith and beliefs of Peruvians? If they picked on her religion time and time again? Mockery is hurtful and I don't condone it.

Hahaha....they mock it all the time! They make fun of me and my country's policies too.

The point to me is that it is all in good fun. I don't say things to intentionally hurt people, but c'mon.....we all have to be able to laugh at how silly we are sometimes.

Quite frankly, I find this story very silly and worth making fun of.......and I'd make fun of it if it happened here too!

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and I'd make fun of it if it happened here too!

Yeah, if it happened here it'd make its way into one of those "How you know you're a redneck" joke lists on the Internet!

ahh see that's where the difference lies. if it happens here, to americans, it's funny. but if it happens elsewhere, that makes us racists that make fun of other cultures if we think it's funny.

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and I'd make fun of it if it happened here too!

Yeah, if it happened here it'd make its way into one of those "How you know you're a redneck" joke lists on the Internet!

ahh see that's where the difference lies. if it happens here, to americans, it's funny. but if it happens elsewhere, that makes us racists that make fun of other cultures if we think it's funny.

I do not condone your post. I find it reprehensible, detestable, evil, depraved, hateful and abominable.

Man is made by his belief. As he believes, so he is.

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and I'd make fun of it if it happened here too!

Yeah, if it happened here it'd make its way into one of those "How you know you're a redneck" joke lists on the Internet!

ahh see that's where the difference lies. if it happens here, to americans, it's funny. but if it happens elsewhere, that makes us racists that make fun of other cultures if we think it's funny.

I do not condone your post. I find it reprehensible, detestable, evil, depraved, hateful and abominable.

And I do not condone your not condoning of my post. I find it all of the above mentioned words :P

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and I'd make fun of it if it happened here too!

Yeah, if it happened here it'd make its way into one of those "How you know you're a redneck" joke lists on the Internet!

ahh see that's where the difference lies. if it happens here, to americans, it's funny. but if it happens elsewhere, that makes us racists that make fun of other cultures if we think it's funny.

I do not condone your post. I find it reprehensible, detestable, evil, depraved, hateful and abominable.

#######?????? you furneiger ..picking on this sweet american sister faith..damn your hide..

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But when we turn to the Hebrew literature, we do not find such jokes about the donkey. Rather the animal is known for its strength and its loyalty to its master (Genesis 49:14; Numbers 22:30).

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and I'd make fun of it if it happened here too!

Yeah, if it happened here it'd make its way into one of those "How you know you're a redneck" joke lists on the Internet!

ahh see that's where the difference lies. if it happens here, to americans, it's funny. but if it happens elsewhere, that makes us racists that make fun of other cultures if we think it's funny.

I do not condone your post. I find it reprehensible, detestable, evil, depraved, hateful and abominable.

#######?????? you furneiger ..picking on this sweet american sister faith..damn your hide..

aww thanks, dean, for the defense.

on another note... If I, being a blond, made a blond joke that I normally would find offensive, would I then be a racist toward myself? :unsure: Just trying to figure out the rules of mockery here :P

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If I, being a blond, made a blond joke that I normally would find offensive, would I then be a racist toward myself? :unsure: Just trying to figure out the rules of mockery here :P

Yes.

thank you. very interesting. I'll have to make sure I don't make fun of myself anymore either then.

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It is never acceptable, IMO, to mock somebody elses' beliefs or faith or to make a particular faith, including it's laws, an excuse for your own comical amusement.

If a religion or a person's particular beliefs are strong and mature, whatever someone else says won't matter.

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me.

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"I like to say SMOCK. SMOCK SMOCK SMOCK!"

Hobbes

that my friends.. is PURE genius :yes:

And if we can't laugh at ourselves, we have no right at all to laugh at someone else. Being how we're all human and all.

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