Do we need to worry about our overseas gay marriage because Amy Coney Barett?

[igoyougoduke 1,656]

6 hours ago, wangsit said:

So, My husband is LPR. We are marriage in New Zealand.
We have same sex marriage.
I am from Indonesia that did not support gay marriage, so our marriage in NZ is considered not accepted.

 

Year 2020 seems like a very hard year for us.
Because we cannot have our plan to have a trip to Thailand in November 2020,  and Trump's visa ban.
My partner is stuck in America because he has better lives in America.
While , I am stuck in New Zealand because migrant cannot come back to NZ because pandemic.

 

And Amy Coney Barett becomes supreme court, and I heard that same sex marriage will be erased.

Our case has reached NVC and waiting to be DQ.

We are worried what will happen to our case, if Trump win and Supreme Court revert their decision in same sex marriage?
Is our case will be nullified because of the supreme Court Decision?
At this moment I have not seen my husband for almost 1 year, and we really miss each other.

 

PD 9 January 2019
Approved 20 March 2020
WL by email 24 April 2020
Submit all documents 30 May 2020
First Response 6 August 2020 (Need police record for benefactor)
Second documents submit 1 September 2020

 

did you get the news from CNN ?

[green_rabbit 69]

6 minutes ago, JFH said:

Kamal Harris would say something like that - she's fighting an election. All bets are off with regard to the scaremongering that people will resort to when there is an election at stake. 

Yes i mentioned that. She is not the only one to have said such things, but I linked her interview because she was the biggest name I came across in a quick search.

 

My point is, from time to time, people in same sex couple come to this site expressing concerns about whether it will be different or harder for them, and a lot of replies seem to me to treat these concerns as absurd. (There was a japanese woman applying for a CR1 who comes to mind.) I am trying to make the point that the concerns are valid, even if LGBT couples currently have legal protection.

[Crazy Cat 41,845]

3 minutes ago, green_rabbit said:

I am trying to make the point that the concerns are valid, even if LGBT couples currently have legal protection.

In this case, I think the reality is that there is no real need for concern for the OP.  

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

21 minutes ago, JFH said:

Kamal Harris would say something like that - she's fighting an election. All bets are off with regard to the scaremongering that people will resort to when there is an election at stake. 

Is Justice Thomas scaremongering too?

[carmel34 3,626]

Is there a chance that with a strong conservative majority on the US Supreme Court now, that the 2015 Obergefell case legalizing same-sex marriage in every state could be overturned in the future?  Sure, it is possible, but unlikely in the short term as the legal process takes a very long time, months and years to work through lower courts all the way up to the SCOTUS.  The current focus of the court is on voting processes and the ACA, not Obergefell.  My advice is to try not to worry about it, all that would do is add stress to your life.  And be prepared for a worst case scenario if Obergefell is overturned in the years ahead.  NZ is a beautiful country.  Canada, Brazil, in fact most developed countries would be a possibility.  Even if the court overturned Obergefell, it would be unlikely that they would take away anyone's LPR or US citizenship status, imagine the chaos if they tried to do that!  So move forward with your spousal visa application and hope for the best, and good luck!

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

22 minutes ago, James120383 said:

did you get the news from CNN ?

Does Fox work for you?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/thomas-alito-kim-davis-obergefell-decision-same-sex-marriage

 

”Thomas and Alito dissented from the original Obergefell decision and their statement Monday could indicate that they would vote to overturn it if presented the chance.”

Edited October 27, 2020 by SusieQQQ

[Bob in Boston 701]

45 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Initially I found this amusing, but thinking about it more, scary, where do you get your information?

Propaganda dished out by the opposing party. Fearmongering, it works.

[kris&me 572]

Original decision was fought by the straight community and lost

the churches and lost and now even the Pope is waivering as noted 

Francis said, “If someone is gay and is searching for the Lord and has a good will, then who am I to judge him?” 

So,  it would be a gay couple to bring a lawsuit against the state (to divorce) on the grounds the marriage should not have been sanctioned by the state?

 

not going to happen

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

4 minutes ago, Bob in Boston said:

Propaganda dished out by the opposing party. Fearmongering, it works.

Justice Clarence Thomas is a fearmongering Democrat? Gee, learn something new every day.

[Bob in Boston 701]

2 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

Justice Clarence Thomas is a fearmongering Democrat? Gee, learn something new every day.

We are talking about the new girl, not the old dude. Yes those opposing her will say anything to sway the vote. Abortion is another issue that they are afraid will be overturned but hasn't. 

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

10 minutes ago, kris&me said:

Original decision was fought by the straight community and lost

Don’t you mean fought by religious conservatives? Plenty of straight people and enough churches are in support of marriage equality. Sidetrack. 

[Boiler 45,486]

We have had quite a few same sex couples, if anything they seem to have an easier path, and I do not see that changing anytime.

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

4 minutes ago, Bob in Boston said:

We are talking about the new girl, not the old dude. Yes those opposing her will say anything to sway the vote. Abortion is another issue that they are afraid will be overturned but hasn't. 

You are somewhat missing the point, that the “new girl” is what the “old dudes” need to give them the majority they need to overturn it when they get the chance. The quote from the “old dude” about revisiting this particular issue is just a couple of weeks ago by the way. Timing is his.

 

I agree there is a lot of scaremongering out there, on both sides. On this particular issue, an actual Supreme Court justice makes it seem perfectly justified.

Edited October 27, 2020 by SusieQQQ

[kris&me 572]

Just now, SusieQQQ said:

Don’t you mean fought by religious conservatives? Plenty of straight people and enough churches are in support of marriage equality. Sidetrack. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/gay-marriage-advocates-want-mississippi-law-struck-down-n807166

 

I even found a site that had gay couples against gay marriages

 

this is one decision i have not followed closely but i do know conservatives (even not associated with a church) marched in protest 

 

and i am so happy i don't have to make these decisions 

[retheem 564]

3 hours ago, Lucky Cat said:

Where did you hear this nonsense?

Well, it hasn't happened yet, but you can predict that will be the case unless Democrats win this thing. As much as people say we should not bring politics, it affects our lives. And from what we have learned the last 4 years, nothing is off the table

Edited October 27, 2020 by retheem