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3 minutes ago, MaleAlpha said:

What policies? You keep stating things and never providing any real substance to back it.

Cite some policies trump has put in place that have specifically addressed or improved the issues I mentioned - race relations, economy, rights & equality, the pandemic and all the worse things the country is going on now. I want facts. Don't just say "policies" and leave it at that.

 

Policies don't improve race relations. Trump's economic success and highest black employment / lowest unemployment in generations is a key metric in affording opportunity in the way its supposed to be. Paying lip service to free things and rousing blacks to join down whites in burning down their neighborhoods unequivocally makes things worse. Defunding the police makes things much worse for blacks given who it overwhelmingly affects. I can go on and on, but it's clear Trump's policies are far better, and the Democrats along with the media and leftists have done their best to incite race issues, specifically by trying to make everything that happens to blacks into a race issue.

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21 hours ago, Dashinka said:

And they call Trump a racist.

 

'I had to remind him that he was a black person': Chelsea Handler explains why she called out 50 Cent for endorsing Trump over Biden's supposed tax hikes for the rich

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8875115/Chelsea-Handler-explains-called-50-Cent-endorsing-Trump-Biden-tax-plans.html

 

Which version of 50 cent did she call out? 

 

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11 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

did you really expect cnn to have this?  you asked for proof, you don't get to move the goalposts now.

No I wasn't expecting it from CNN. Just don't cite things from right wing propaganda sites.

That's like me citing fake news my friends and I created in a dark basement to prove a point.

 

I will make it easier for you. Give me something from Fox and I will take it. Give me proof, man.

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16 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

1 minute in and you can see how Trump described the people there to protest getting the statues taken down. There are also plenty of other quotes of Trump where he identifies the people there "protesting" and counterprotesting (the "fine people" on both sides), and those on both sides who were extremists there to fight. The people counter protesting them weren't protesting to "end white supremacy", they were protesting people protesting a statue being taken down. I do notice how funny it is how you paint things you disagree with, it just doesn't work.

You are failing horribly to realize those statues represent white supremacy. These were horrible racists and traitors that were ready to destroy and tear this country apart just so they could enslave human beings. Why celebrate traitors and have their statues & flags of that traitorous movement up like it was a good thing? You are not making sense at all. 

So how is the US president calling people who promote those ideals "fine people". You are losing me heavy on that one.

 

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7 minutes ago, MaleAlpha said:

No I wasn't expecting it from CNN. Just don't cite things from right wing propaganda sites.

That's like me citing fake news my friends and I created in a dark basement to prove a point.

 

I will make it easier for you. Give me something from Fox and I will take it. Give me proof, man.

you didn't specify so i'm not going to be your bird dog.  go hunt for it yourself.

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Makes you wonder who will next, MLK seems a given, a lot of roads to be renamed.

 

One area of Denver was named after a Democrat Governor, that has changed.

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12 minutes ago, Boiler said:

The funny this was Obama held sway over what is now known as the wasted years, thinks picked up when Trump came on the scene. How Biden is somehow given a pass confuses me.

Well, thanks to Obama for rescuing the country from the disaster George Bush created. Everything was a mess when he came to power - economy in tatters, unemployment through the roof etc. and he still managed to rebuild it to where trump could pick it up 8 years later. 

Like all presidents, not all Obama's policies were great - DAPA was a bad idea for instance, how he handled the Libya & Gaddafi affair was bad, same with Syria etc. - but overall, he was a really great president. Some of the controversial parts about his presidency were actually some of his great moments - e.g. DACA and Obamacare. It wasn't perfect or even remotely good but he pushed the discussion around Immigration & Healthcare front and center in American politics. These were major things in American politics no president wanted to go near for fear. Obama had the guts to do it.

 

What I expected of trump and the republicans was to come up with policies around Immigration & Healthcare. If Obamacare and DACA are bad, that's cool but show us how you will make it better. 4 SOLID years and not a single policy. That speaks volumes about their ineptitude. I have never used Obamacare so I don't have a dog in the fight but if you say something is so bad, show us how you will fix it. Zilch! and we are still waiting..

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12 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

you didn't specify so i'm not going to be your bird dog.  go hunt for it yourself.

Because you have NOTHING to show. It just doesn't exist! Just admit it. You just support trump because you have some inane fear of what America is becoming.

The maga fanbase is so scared to publicly talk about that fear because they know it makes them look like horrible human beings.

You fear that women's equality somehow makes men less. You fear that minorities success and equality makes white people lose. You fear that LGBTQ rights someone destroys American society. There, I said it for you. If you believe in something so strongly, why don't you proudly state it and why?

 

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16 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Makes you wonder who will next, MLK seems a given, a lot of roads to be renamed.

 

One area of Denver was named after a Democrat Governor, that has changed.

The agenda is to not celebrate traitors and embodiments of white supremacy.

It's either you support the cause or you don't.

It's either you are racist, support slavery and the ideals of the confederacy or you're not.

There's no in-between. 

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10 minutes ago, MaleAlpha said:

Well, thanks to Obama for rescuing the country from the disaster George Bush created. Everything was a mess when he came to power - economy in tatters, unemployment through the roof etc. and he still managed to rebuild it to where trump could pick it up 8 years later. 

Like all presidents, not all Obama's policies were great - DAPA was a bad idea for instance, how he handled the Libya & Gaddafi affair was bad, same with Syria etc. - but overall, he was a really great president. Some of the controversial parts about his presidency were actually some of his great moments - e.g. DACA and Obamacare. It wasn't perfect or even remotely good but he pushed the discussion around Immigration & Healthcare front and center in American politics. These were major things in American politics no president wanted to go near for fear. Obama had the guts to do it.

 

What I expected of trump and the republicans was to come up with policies around Immigration & Healthcare. If Obamacare and DACA are bad, that's cool but show us how you will make it better. 4 SOLID years and not a single policy. That speaks volumes about their ineptitude. I have never used Obamacare so I don't have a dog in the fight but if you say something is so bad, show us how you will fix it. Zilch! and we are still waiting..

So you enjoyed the 8 years of constant war?

 

He wasted an opportunity with OCare, caved into the swamp instead of undertaking proper reform.

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The agenda is to not celebrate traitors and embodiments of white supremacy.

It's either you support the cause or you don't.

It's either you are racist, support slavery and the ideals of the confederacy or you're not.

There's no in-between. 

What about MeToo, is that not a worthy cause, or is abuse of women OK?

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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

So you enjoyed the 8 years of constant war?

 

He wasted an opportunity with OCare, caved into the swamp instead of undertaking proper reform.

What about MeToo, is that not a worthy cause, or is abuse of women OK?

What constant war? Are you talking about policy disagreements between Republicans & Democrats or actual warfare like Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan etc. I need some context.

 

And what do you mean by he failed on Obamacare? It passed the house and passed the senate 60 - 39 (1 vote abstaining) and was executed the way the bill proposed. So what are you talking about?? Again, provide some context. Don't just say generic things with no context or substance.

 

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10 minutes ago, Boiler said:

What about MeToo, is that not a worthy cause, or is abuse of women OK?

I think you're confused. MeToo picked up steam under Trump and primarily targeted him and other men who have abused women.

Had nothing to do with Obama. So what's your point?

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You are failing horribly to realize those statues represent white supremacy. These were horrible racists and traitors that were ready to destroy and tear this country apart just so they could enslave human beings. Why celebrate traitors and have their statues & flags of that traitorous movement up like it was a good thing? You are not making sense at all. 

So how is the US president calling people who promote those ideals "fine people". You are losing me heavy on that one.

 

Question : Are you racist? Do you believe in and agree with the ideals of the confederacy which was primarily to keep slavery going? Do you believe in and agree with slavery?

So by the same logic, I can assess you and your lineage by the worst things people lately can contrive. That standard was always junk, but it's notable that its being used by people who tear down statues and monuments that have nothing to do with white supremacy or white anything, like Frederick Douglass, Junipero Serra, etc. It's gone well beyond the initial "confederate" monuments as predicted and now its tearing down statues of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and so on. The only statue this left leaves alone? Vladimir Lenin. Fitting.

 

There's no confusing this destructive virtue signaling as "ending white supremacy". It does nothing to white supremacy. It's merely violent morons trying to destroy foundations of a country because they want power, nothing more.

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1 hour ago, MaleAlpha said:

What you outlined is exactly how voting should be. Based on real facts and evidence. 

I personally had no issues with trump winning the presidency in 2016. He was new and regardless of what anyone felt, I believed he deserved a chance. After all, he had some good messaging - putting America first which honestly resonated with a lot of people. After all, shouldn't the American people come first?

 

Fast forward to 4 years later and he's left the country worse off than what it was when he took over -  economy in a disaster, a pandemic he's shown clear ineptitude at managing, race relations worse off than has been in the past 20-30 years, no plans for healthcare, immigration etc.. It's just been lie & scandal one after the other.

 

So what is the making America great plan?? I only see someone who's making America worse. 

Hmm, the Gallup Poll that measures if people think they are better off disagrees with your assessment, so if you have proof that the country is worse off, please provide it.  Btw, this poll that has been running for sometime shows a record for a president running for a second term.

 

 

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1 hour ago, MaleAlpha said:

You are just grasping at straws at this point.

 

Random incoherent news articles that have no relevance to why you believe trump is such a great candidate. I can provide you over 20 evidence to back reasons why trump is racist.

The fact that you don’t see things like this as a natural offshoot of the Democrat Party’s identity politics strategy is troubling, but I guess we see what we see.  Old Joe told the DJ in NYC pretty much the same thing, and when a Party treats an identity group like they should all think the same way, that is nothing short of a bigoted position.

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