Facebook and Twitter reducing distribution of New York Post Hunter Biden story [merged threads]

[Dashinka 24,731]

8 minutes ago, moxy said:

I didn't quote the blog:

 

I posted it sarcastically to make a point. In fact, I very deliberately did not post a link.

I thought that point was already made, there are extremist sources on both sides.  I am sure a lot of Dems are in favor of the views of the Palmer Report.

[moxy 1,051]

7 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

I thought that point was already made, there are extremist sources on both sides.  I am sure a lot of Dems are in favor of the views of the Palmer Report.

The point has been made, but not necessarily accepted by some local punters.

 

I agree with you, I'm sure a lot of Dems are in favor of the Palmer Report also. People love having their biases confirmed. Those people should try to be better.

[Dashinka 24,731]

1 minute ago, moxy said:

The point has been made, but not necessarily accepted by some local punters.

 

I agree with you, I'm sure a lot of Dems are in favor of the Palmer Report also. People love having their biases confirmed. Those people should try to be better.

Considering how hard the MSM along with the folks at Twitter/FB/YT tried to keep this under the radar before the election, the fact that they are covering it now does not instill any additional trust in their institutions.

[moxy 1,051]

2 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Considering how hard the MSM along with the folks at Twitter/FB/YT tried to keep this under the radar before the election, the fact that they are covering it now does not instill any additional trust in their institutions.

You understand the "Hunter's laptop" story was bogus. It was debunked ten different ways. (disclaimer: I don't know if it was actually ten. It was a lot)

 

The tax investigation is another matter entirely. And you'll note that none of the left leaning folk here are calling it a witch hunt or fraud or disgruntled federal employees. I don't know anybody here personally, but I tend to think it's because they're not under the sway of this bizarre Trumpian cult of personality where their side are patriotic defenders of freedom, and the other side are flag-burning lady-liberty-molesting traitors.

 

There is no evidence of a cabal of traditional media and social media uniting to keep this under the radar.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, moxy said:

You understand the "Hunter's laptop" story was bogus. It was debunked ten different ways. (disclaimer: I don't know if it was actually ten. It was a lot)

 

The tax investigation is another matter entirely. And you'll note that none of the left leaning folk here are calling it a witch hunt or fraud or disgruntled federal employees. I don't know anybody here personally, but I tend to think it's because they're not under the sway of this bizarre Trumpian cult of personality where their side are patriotic defenders of freedom, and the other side are flag-burning lady-liberty-molesting traitors.

 

There is no evidence of a cabal of traditional media and social media uniting to keep this under the radar.

I see no other fitting explanation for the FBI opening a case on something "bogus" and it remaining an active investigation for over a year, for Hunter's partners ratting him out with damning information, the photos of him released.. at minimum three things that demonstrate significant credibility over "its bogus" along with the "Russia" tripe diarrhea'd by Adam Schiff and co.

[moxy 1,051]

1 hour ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

I see no other fitting explanation for the FBI opening a case on something "bogus" and it remaining an active investigation for over a year, for Hunter's partners ratting him out with damning information, the photos of him released.. at minimum three things that demonstrate significant credibility over "its bogus" along with the "Russia" tripe diarrhea'd by Adam Schiff and co.

It certainly fits a narrative that those on the far right would love to be true, I'll give you that.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

31 minutes ago, moxy said:

It certainly fits a narrative that those on the far right would love to be true, I'll give you that.

If the truth is something that looks "far right" to someone, I guess that speaks to where they are at the moment more than anything else.

[moxy 1,051]

7 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

If the truth is something that looks "far right" to someone, I guess that speaks to where they are at the moment more than anything else.

But that's not what you're doing. What you're doing is infering. You're putting some puzzle pieces on the table, and saying "well it's wood and grass and sky and I think that's part of a cow, so it absolutely has to be a farmhouse on a hill with a cow," when it may also be a table with a dog on a green rug and a blue wall. OR it may be the farmhouse on a hill with a cow, as you say. But you don't know so it can't be truth.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

40 minutes ago, moxy said:

But that's not what you're doing. What you're doing is infering. You're putting some puzzle pieces on the table, and saying "well it's wood and grass and sky and I think that's part of a cow, so it absolutely has to be a farmhouse on a hill with a cow," when it may also be a table with a dog on a green rug and a blue wall. OR it may be the farmhouse on a hill with a cow, as you say. But you don't know so it can't be truth.

Substantial projection here. You claimed the entire story is bogus, so evidently the laptop the FBI has verified they possess doesn't exist and is a "far right" invention. I see no explanation of how the FBI is lying, about anything here, I see no explanation of how the photos retrieved from the laptop are fake or derived from elsewhere, no evidence about how the documents provided by people Hunter worked with showing these connections aren't real, absolutely nothing but wonderful analogies and a label. I sense a pattern.

 

Edited December 10, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Dashinka 24,731]

53 minutes ago, moxy said:

But that's not what you're doing. What you're doing is infering. You're putting some puzzle pieces on the table, and saying "well it's wood and grass and sky and I think that's part of a cow, so it absolutely has to be a farmhouse on a hill with a cow," when it may also be a table with a dog on a green rug and a blue wall. OR it may be the farmhouse on a hill with a cow, as you say. But you don't know so it can't be truth.

Considering the amount of evidence here is way more than there ever was regarding Russian Collusion, I would think it is worth looking into.

 

What always amazes me is when a middle class politician is elected to office years and years ago, and somehow they become millionaires several times over while in office and they are admired.  Then when a very successful person that made a lot of money in the business world decides to run for office, they are denigrated as pariahs.

[moxy 1,051]

24 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Substantial projection here. You claimed the entire story is bogus, so evidently the laptop the FBI has verified they possess doesn't exist and is a "far right" invention. I see no explanation of how the FBI is lying, about anything here, I see no explanation of how the photos retrieved from the laptop are fake or derived from elsewhere, no evidence about how the documents provided by people Hunter worked with showing these connections aren't real, absolutely nothing but wonderful analogies and a label. I sense a pattern.

 

I said the laptop story is bogus. I said nothing about the tax story.

[laylalex 7,300]

7 minutes ago, moxy said:

I said the laptop story is bogus. I said nothing about the tax story.

I agree with you, but there is reliable reporting that some laptop was handed over to the FBI. What that laptop is, and what it contains (or doesn't) we don't know yet. It could be the smoking gun relating to... I dunno, Hunter Biden's plans to make us all Ukrainian or whatever, or it could be a nothingburger. But I will continue to monitor the Palmer Report for the latest.  

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

25 minutes ago, moxy said:

I said the laptop story is bogus. I said nothing about the tax story.

The laptop story is what I'm talking about. The emails' authenticity on the laptop were verified. The emails were also corroborated and verified by business partners of Hunter's, one giving email access to reporters, another of which gave a deposition to the FBI and testified before committees and private+publicly provided text messages proving what he's claimed. Then the FBI has confirmed investigations open into this very thing (would not be actively investigating "bogus claims" for this long). Then there's the published photos of Hunter that were from the laptop. I've yet to see one iota of substance to your claim of this being "bogus", and your "belief" in this isn't a requisite to the factual basis of it.

[moxy 1,051]

36 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I agree with you, but there is reliable reporting that some laptop was handed over to the FBI. What that laptop is, and what it contains (or doesn't) we don't know yet. It could be the smoking gun relating to... I dunno, Hunter Biden's plans to make us all Ukrainian or whatever, or it could be a nothingburger. But I will continue to monitor the Palmer Report for the latest.  

Fair enough. I think I'm focused on exactly what you mentioned: we don't know what's on the laptop. It could indeed be a smoking gun, or it could be a fake, or anywhere in between. My objection has been treating it as the absolute smoking gun that the Biden crime family has been operating from within the shadows like a penny dreadful mastermind.

 

I'll say this too: I personally don't believe Hunter Biden is some innocent businessman with angel wings and a halo. There is a lot of smoke around him. But I'm just not outright going to condemn him or buy into any and all amateur  VJ speculation and pronouncements of absolutes and crazy thumbtacks on maps with yards of string connecting all the crazy dots. If the FBI brings tax fraud/evasion/whatever charges against Hunter Biden, then so be it. Not a single person here has all the facts though.

44 minutes ago, laylalex said:

But I will continue to monitor the Palmer Report for the latest.  

It's my go-to as well. Very factual, very cool.

 

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

Note to Republicans: There are sane people on the left:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 11, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds