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Long story short, the Bobulinski messages so far demonstrate that partners of Hunter didn't understand why he was there, saying he brought nothing to the table, Hunter jumps in the conversations and declares himself as "the deal", due to his access and his name. I mean, it really doesn't get any more damning than that, and this is completely aside of anything related to Giuliani, so the people still whining about Giuliani or utilizing the Russian conspiracy stuff are doing so simply because they want this to go away. Nothing more.

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Great article about the tactics of the Left, and the Leftist Media (which includes FB and Twitter).  Anyone wanting to maintain a free expression of political thought /speech should take note, and understand which side has been gradually moving in the direction to suppress it.

 

Unfriending Free Speech

Who will guard the gatekeepers of our political discourse?

William Voegeli

October 26, 2020 

Politics and law

The Social Order

 

Open the aperture wider still, and it becomes clear that cutting-edge “liberal” thinking is increasingly hostile to liberty. John Stuart Mill believed that the free and full exchange of ideas not only honors the rights of the people who express them but also enhances the understanding of those who read or hear them. People shielded from ideas that they find noxious or absurd “have never thrown themselves into the mental position of those who think differently from them, and considered what such persons may have to say,” Mill wrote in On Liberty, in 1859. As a result, “they do not, in any proper sense of the word, know the doctrine which they themselves profess.”

In the twenty-first century, left-of-center scholars, activists, and journalists increasingly view Mill’s case for free expression as an embarrassing anachronism. Worse still, they believe, is that the cost of giving maximum latitude to the presentation of diverse opinions has come to outweigh the benefits. It is a “mistake to think of free speech as an effective means to accomplish a more just society,” Georgetown law professor Michael Seidman said in 2018. Because the United States suffers from too much free speech exercised by too many people, Emily Bazelon of the Yale Law School wrote in the New York Times, our beleaguered democracy is “drowning in lies.”

Instead of allowing a self-regulating public square, where sound evidence and reasoning prevail over arguments shown to rest on weaker facts and syllogisms, these thinkers want superintended discourse. The goal, according to the New Yorker’s Masha Gessen, is to establish and maintain “the sphere of legitimate controversy.” James Bennet, for example, lost his job as editorial page editor of the New York Times because he thought an op-ed by Senator Tom Cotton endorsing the use of federal troops in riot-torn cities fell within that sphere. A staff revolt at the newspaper reflected the contrary belief that Cotton’s opinion was beyond the pale.

 

https://www.city-journal.org/gatekeepers-free-speech

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A lot of really worthwhile treatises in City Journal.

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Wasn't there someone recently stating that Trump was severely compromised by foreign banks?  I guess it is OK as long as it is the CCP.  If selling his influence as a Senator/VP/Former VP was lucrative, I wonder how much it would be worth as President?

 

Biden Family Whistleblower: Joe Biden Is ‘Compromised’ By Communist China

 

Biden family business partner-turned-whistleblower Tony Bobulinski told Fox News’ Tucker Carlson Tuesday night that Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is “compromised” by communist China.

“If Joe Biden is elected president, which could very well happen,” Carlson said, “how does this constrain his ability to deal with China?”

“So I think Joe Biden and the Biden family is compromised,” Bobulinski said. “I just don’t see, given the history here and the facts, how Joe can’t be influenced in some manner based on the history that they have here with CEFC,” a Chinese energy company.

 

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/27/biden-family-whistleblower-joe-biden-is-compromised-by-communist-china/

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1 hour ago, Dashinka said:

Wasn't there someone recently stating that Trump was severely compromised by foreign banks?  I guess it is OK as long as it is the CCP.  If selling his influence as a Senator/VP/Former VP was lucrative, I wonder how much it would be worth as President?

 

Biden Family Whistleblower: Joe Biden Is ‘Compromised’ By Communist China

 

Biden family business partner-turned-whistleblower Tony Bobulinski told Fox News’ Tucker Carlson Tuesday night that Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden is “compromised” by communist China.

“If Joe Biden is elected president, which could very well happen,” Carlson said, “how does this constrain his ability to deal with China?”

“So I think Joe Biden and the Biden family is compromised,” Bobulinski said. “I just don’t see, given the history here and the facts, how Joe can’t be influenced in some manner based on the history that they have here with CEFC,” a Chinese energy company.

 

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/27/biden-family-whistleblower-joe-biden-is-compromised-by-communist-china/

Bobulinski was asked point blank how 

 

'So I think Joe Biden and the Biden family is compromised,” Bobulinski said. “I just don’t see, given the history here and the facts, how Joe can’t be influenced in some manner based on the history that they have here with CEFC,"...but he failed to present any facts to support his feelings. 1. No evidence Joe agreed to anything 2 No evidence anything was presented to Joe 3 No money changed hands in this deal

 

So how is he "compromised"?

 

 

 

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39 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Bobulinski was asked point blank how 

 

'So I think Joe Biden and the Biden family is compromised,” Bobulinski said. “I just don’t see, given the history here and the facts, how Joe can’t be influenced in some manner based on the history that they have here with CEFC,"...but he failed to present any facts to support his feelings. 1. No evidence Joe agreed to anything 2 No evidence anything was presented to Joe 3 No money changed hands in this deal

 

So how is he "compromised"?

 

 

 

If you can't see the obvious, I am not sure I can help.  As has been stated many times, this is not going to go to any court of law, but only to the court of public opinion.  If you are OK with an elected official, any elected official, selling or potentially selling their influence for their own self benefit then fine, vote for them, but this is a real big negative in the scorecard you were touting in another thread.

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Biden family scandal: Seven uncomfortable realities confronting the Democrat nominee

 

 

1. Appearance of a conflict of interest

Joe Biden's claim that "not one single solitary thing was out of line" is contradicted by the facts. Multiple State Department officials, including Biden's former ambassador and deputy chief of mission in Kiev, have testified they believed the vice president created the appearance of a conflict of interest by continuing to oversee anti-corruption policy in Ukraine while his son served on the board of a company called Burisma Holdings that was under corruption investigation. The officials also said the Biden family behavior in Ukraine undercut U.S. efforts to fight endemic corruption in Ukraine.

The concerns were captured in one email written by U.S. Deputy Chief of Mission George Kent in September 2016. "The presence of Hunter Biden on the Burisma board was very awkward for all U.S. officials pushing an anticorruption agenda in Ukraine," he wrote.

In separate testimony, Kent revealed he raised his concerns directly with Joe Biden's office but got rebuffed. "I said that I had learned that Hunter Biden had been appointed to a board of this company, that I had just raised U.S. concerns about the owner of the company, who we believed had been engaged in money-laundering," Kent told senators earlier this year

 

https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/biden-family-scandal-7-uncomfortable-realities

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42 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

If you can't see the obvious, I am not sure I can help.  As has been stated many times, this is not going to go to any court of law, but only to the court of public opinion.  If you are OK with an elected official, any elected official, selling or potentially selling their influence for their own self benefit then fine, vote for them, but this is a real big negative in the scorecard you were touting in another thread.

Bingo. 

 

We already know how some approached this, via "Russia" and "Giuliani", it shouldn't be surprise that the interview is deliberately looked at in isolation without regard to the texts/emails released by Bobulinski over the past week, while they were still crowing about Giuliani and Russia.

 

At any rate, what I found unsurprising:

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Bobulinski: I Came Forward Because Schiff Accused Me of Being Part of Russian Disinformation

 

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Tony Bobulinski stated that he was motivated to come forward on the record after House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-CA) accused him of being part of Russian disinformation.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/10/27/bobulinski-i-came-forward-because-schiff-accused-me-of-being-part-of-russian-disinformation/

 

Russia conspiracies.. a good way to turn someone that was an outsider/independent into someone against you. That sure sounds familiar. Hello 2016/17. 😃

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58 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

If you can't see the obvious, I am not sure I can help.  As has been stated many times, this is not going to go to any court of law, but only to the court of public opinion.  If you are OK with an elected official, any elected official, selling or potentially selling their influence for their own self benefit then fine, vote for them, but this is a real big negative in the scorecard you were touting in another thread.

I can see you are confused the issue is not what was said but if the candidate has a D or a R after their name.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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15 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Bingo. 

 

We already know how some approached this, via "Russia" and "Giuliani", it shouldn't be surprise that the interview is deliberately looked at in isolation without regard to the texts/emails released by Bobulinski over the past week, while they were still crowing about Giuliani and Russia.

 

At any rate, what I found unsurprising:

 

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/10/27/bobulinski-i-came-forward-because-schiff-accused-me-of-being-part-of-russian-disinformation/

 

Russia conspiracies.. a good way to turn someone that was an outsider/independent into someone against you. That sure sounds familiar. Hello 2016/17. 😃

Adam Schiff is a complete idiot.  I wonder why his electorate keeps putting him back into office.

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Adam Schiff is a complete idiot.  I wonder why his electorate keeps putting him back into office.

As a former Californian myself, I know how much the urban regions are a social bubble unto itself. That's how people like Nancy, Maxine, Adam, and co can keep being re-elected after 500 years of being useless, and now participative in polarization. All it takes is getting out of that bubble, and an ounce of introspective reasoning, for one to realize what a sham it is. 

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I would like to add Colorado's own Diane De Gette.

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Al "Impeach Trump" Green, D-TX

 

Sheila Jackson-"Me"-Lee*, D-TX

   *you take your life into your own hands if you dare get between her & a television camera

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