Returning after 10 year bar?

[Boiler 45,525]

Children do not accrue illegal presence. Now being deported is obviously an issue.

[Ghost 6]

So as a Canadian citizen I still need to apply for a visa? Just to enter and visit?

[Ghost 6]

2 hours ago, Boiler said:

Children do not accrue illegal presence. Now being deported is obviously an issue.

Yeah I grew up there since age 7. No one told me. Plus I had witnessed a lot of crime that my family had done and to get rid of me this was their way to just deport me out. Sad story but I lost my life due to this.

[aaron2020 11,651]

22 minutes ago, Ghost said:

So as a Canadian citizen I still need to apply for a visa? Just to enter and visit?

You need a visa to visit since you've been deported.

From the US Embassy in Canada.  https://ca.usembassy.gov/visas/do-i-need-a-visa/

 

Canadian citizens generally do not require a visa to enter the United States directly from Canada for the purposes of visiting or studying. However, all Canadians entering the U.S. by air require passports, and Canadians entering the U.S. by land or sea must have a Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI)-compliant travel document.

 

Some Canadians, do require visas. For example, intending immigrants, fiancé/fiancées, or investors must qualify for a visa before entry in the same manner as other nationalities. Other entrants, such as journalists, temporary workers or NAFTA professionals, must present all necessary supporting documentation and/or approved petitions directly to a U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Officer at the Port of Entry. You may wish to consult the CBP website ahead of travel to ensure you are compliant with U.S. entry requirements for Canadians and others.

 

Furthermore, Canadians who have been deported or removed from the United States, or Canadians with a criminal record, including for driving under the influence, must satisfy other requirements to gain entry to the United States.

[Ghost 6]

5 minutes ago, aaron2020 said:

You need a visa to visit since you've been deported.

From the US Embassy in Canada.  https://ca.usembassy.gov/visas/do-i-need-a-visa/

 

Canadian citizens generally do not require a visa to enter the United States directly from Canada for the purposes of visiting or studying. However, all Canadians entering the U.S. by air require passports, and Canadians entering the U.S. by land or sea must have a Western Hemisphere Travel Initiative (WHTI)-compliant travel document.

 

Some Canadians, do require visas. For example, intending immigrants, fiancé/fiancées, or investors must qualify for a visa before entry in the same manner as other nationalities. Other entrants, such as journalists, temporary workers or NAFTA professionals, must present all necessary supporting documentation and/or approved petitions directly to a U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Officer at the Port of Entry. You may wish to consult the CBP website ahead of travel to ensure you are compliant with U.S. entry requirements for Canadians and others.

 

Furthermore, Canadians who have been deported or removed from the United States, or Canadians with a criminal record, including for driving under the influence, must satisfy other requirements to gain entry to the United States.

But just to visit I won't need a visa. If I plan on immigrating then yes I would need a visa, this one I know for sure. Is this correct?  But visiting is okay? Under Canadian citizenship. I was deported as a Luxembourg citizen at a young age early 20s. But crossing as a Canadian as it's easier. I was told.

[aaron2020 11,651]

YOU WERE DEPORTED.  It doesn't matter that you got a new citizenship.  It doesn't change who you are or the fact that you were deported.   

 

Don't you think the US Government hasn't accounted for people getting new citizenships?  Do you think that they would allow that loophole to exist?  

 

Best of luck.  

Edited October 24, 2020 by aaron2020

[Ghost 6]

3 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

YOU WERE DEPORTED.  It doesn't matter that you got a new citizenship.  It doesn't change who you are or the fact that you were deported.   

 

Don't you think the US Government hasn't accounted for people getting new citizenships?  Do you think that they would allow that loophole to exist?  

 

Best of luck.  

I do get it, but on the link I don't see vacation visa on there? 

 

To get an E2 visa you must first invest the money before getting it or else won't get approved. 

 

I am going by this this part: Canadian citizens generally do not require a visa to enter the United States directly from Canada for the purposes of visiting or studying. 

I wish to visit, buy property and do E2 visa. I also have family in the USA 2 people if I were to visit. I could just buy the property from here in Canada without stepping foot in the USA but I would like to see it with my own guys if I drop a lot of money.

 

Oh and this link here is broken, under the word "requirements": 

Furthermore, Canadians who have been deported or removed from the United States, or Canadians with a criminal record, including for driving under the influence, must satisfy other requirements to gain entry to the United States.

It says:

Invalid Page

 

Edited October 24, 2020 by Ghost

[Ghost 6]

3 hours ago, aaron2020 said:

YOU WERE DEPORTED.  It doesn't matter that you got a new citizenship.  It doesn't change who you are or the fact that you were deported.   

 

Don't you think the US Government hasn't accounted for people getting new citizenships?  Do you think that they would allow that loophole to exist?  

 

Best of luck.  

Not looking for a loophole maybe you misunderstood me. It's just that I heard under Canadian citizenship you do not need a VISA to enter just as a visitor from what I was told. Lawyers don't know and always are new to things. Last lawyer I had gave me wrong advice and told me he knew my judge for deportation many years ago. Finds out he was just a fraud and scammed 30+ people with immigration and made the news for fraud. 

 

Please don't give me attitude, I've lost a lot of friends and some family in my life due to this bs. My family was married many times lied too immigration got citizenship. I got screwed because I didn't want to lie about fake rapes okay? Insurance fraud. I was young and not "part of the family" for helping them lie okay? I don't need attitude or anything and every lawyer has ZERO IDEA about anything and "I would have to look into it" so what good is that? Charge $20k for 1 thing because he doesn't know and if he knew he would tell me on the spot? Many of the lawyers I've spoken too and explained my story just said "sorry I don't know and not much and here I'll refund you, your story is pretty bad" Now criminals enter the country etc. I was just a kid as a witness. For years I was in your school system stood up and "I pledge allegiance to the flag" that I am not a citizen of. US GOV screwed up because they knew I was registered in the US all these years, and just left me there? I spoken with 1 lawyer who said I should SUE. For the amount of damaged I had to deal with in my life. So no I am not looking for a loophole or anything but was told by everyone to USE CANADIAN PASSPORT when crossing by CAR not my EUROPEAN ONE. Trust me I had it very hard and I am witness to a lot of crimes! Okay? It's beyond very complicated and the FBI doesn't care to do their job because he was dating my sister and had a DIRTY DA in court who would put false evidence on people to frame them okay? There is news article about this person. My sister was bragging about this when I was 16 years old okay? I had no one at the time okay? I had it very hard. So don't try to talk to me like I'm looking for the easy way out. Just asking because your stuff or who ever posted the link, had a broken link and didn't make sense from all the info I got. You all say "get a good lawyer" who is the #1 top lawyer in the country?  I've seen my family drug people up, scam people for money, make false rape claims to shut people up. I've seen my mom put a pillow on top one of her 14 husbands. She only married these guys for a short time period in Vegas just to take whatever funds they had left in the bank up to $800k etc. I've dealt with a lot in my life. I think easy way out would be to get a hungry lawyer to sue if I had a chance.

Edited October 24, 2020 by Ghost

[Just Paul 4,595]

The simple fact that you were ever deported means you can not enter the US without a VISA.  It does not matter what passport you were using.   If you walk across you will be fingerprinted.  If you drive or fly there will be a name and records check,  The US and Canada share electronic realtime immigration records.  They will see your "new citizenship" and you former one.  There will be an identity match.  You will be refused entry and possible get another bar.

 

$160 and an interview is all it will take to see about getting a new visitors visa.   You don't need to  spend a dime on anything else.

[Ghost 6]

1 hour ago, Paul & Mary said:

The simple fact that you were ever deported means you can not enter the US without a VISA.  It does not matter what passport you were using.   If you walk across you will be fingerprinted.  If you drive or fly there will be a name and records check,  The US and Canada share electronic realtime immigration records.  They will see your "new citizenship" and you former one.  There will be an identity match.  You will be refused entry and possible get another bar.

 

$160 and an interview is all it will take to see about getting a new visitors visa.   You don't need to  spend a dime on anything else.

I know that they share info etc. But just wondering if I can return or need a visa just to visit? So what kind of a visa do I need as a Canadian citizen just to visit? I was told Canadian's don't require visa's just to visit. Now on here I am being told that Canadians are required a visa just to visit if they were removed in the past. I'm not trying to pull a fast one here or loop the system into trying to pull a quick one here either. I for a fact know that they share systems. Just wasn't sure on that one. 

 

Explain this one too me if you can please "You will be refused entry and possible get another bar." On what grounds? Because of my past simply? 

[Boiler 45,525]

3 hours ago, Ghost said:

I do get it, but on the link I don't see vacation visa on there? 

 

To get an E2 visa you must first invest the money before getting it or else won't get approved. 

 

I am going by this this part: Canadian citizens generally do not require a visa to enter the United States directly from Canada for the purposes of visiting or studying. 

I wish to visit, buy property and do E2 visa. I also have family in the USA 2 people if I were to visit. I could just buy the property from here in Canada without stepping foot in the USA but I would like to see it with my own guys if I drop a lot of money.

 

Oh and this link here is broken, under the word "requirements": 

Furthermore, Canadians who have been deported or removed from the United States, or Canadians with a criminal record, including for driving under the influence, must satisfy other requirements to gain entry to the United States.

It says:

Invalid Page

 

You have a misunderstanding of the requirements of an E2, and an E2 will need legal help, not something you want to mess around with when investing those sort of sums.

[Just Paul 4,595]

9 minutes ago, Ghost said:

So what kind of a visa do I need as a Canadian citizen just to visit?

B2 is a Tourist visa.

 

9 minutes ago, Ghost said:

Now on here I am being told that Canadians are required a visa just to visit if they were removed in the past

This is not only Canadians but any nationality that is permitted to generically enter without a VISA.   So countries that are eligible for ESTA/VWP are also included.

 

9 minutes ago, Ghost said:

 

Explain this one too me if you can please "You will be refused entry and possible get another bar."

If you present yourself for entry without a VISA, you may ask to "withdraw your application" and often they will allow that with no penalty.  (This is why flying via a preclearance airport is preferred.) Enter at a land port or interior airport and they have to do a stack of paperwork and there will be a record of your attempt to Improper Enter.

 

Improper Entry includes - Attempting to enter or obtain entry to the U.S. by a willfully false or misleading representation.  https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325#:~:text=Any alien who (1) enters,or misleading representation or the

 

When you were deported you should have received a warning that you would need a visa to re-enter the US at a later time.  It may have been in writing depending on how far back it was.  If you appeared before an Immigration Law Judge it would have been part of the standard admonitions. 

 

[Ghost 6]

4 hours ago, Paul & Mary said:

B2 is a Tourist visa.

 

This is not only Canadians but any nationality that is permitted to generically enter without a VISA.   So countries that are eligible for ESTA/VWP are also included.

 

If you present yourself for entry without a VISA, you may ask to "withdraw your application" and often they will allow that with no penalty.  (This is why flying via a preclearance airport is preferred.) Enter at a land port or interior airport and they have to do a stack of paperwork and there will be a record of your attempt to Improper Enter.

 

Improper Entry includes - Attempting to enter or obtain entry to the U.S. by a willfully false or misleading representation.  https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325#:~:text=Any alien who (1) enters,or misleading representation or the

 

When you were deported you should have received a warning that you would need a visa to re-enter the US at a later time.  It may have been in writing depending on how far back it was.  If you appeared before an Immigration Law Judge it would have been part of the standard admonitions. 

 

Thank you, 2005 and no, nothing stated I would need a visa. 

 

So B2 visa is what I would require. Thank you.

[Ghost 6]

4 hours ago, Boiler said:

You have a misunderstanding of the requirements of an E2, and an E2 will need legal help, not something you want to mess around with when investing those sort of sums.

Was told before getting an E 2 you need to drop $100k but due to my past probably $200k.  It's just for business. I was told you can't get approved without doing the investments first.

Edited October 25, 2020 by Ghost

[Boiler 45,525]

Specific numbers can be misleading, I have seen E2's granted for a very small investment but it was in support of a very large contract.

 

You do not have to spend the money, it can be a contract subject to issuance of a visa, has to be committed. Maybe held in ESCROW. This is a general comment, YMMV.