Gal Gadot as Cleopatra is a backwards step for Hollywood representation

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1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

They have done this before. Did you ever see The Hollow Crown? Sophie Okonedo was fierce as Queen Margaret in part two. I'm always one for historical accuracy as I said before though, but there are productions that tend to focus just on acting chops alone.

It was very good, but I'm always there for anything with Tilda Swinton. Iannucci's other film (and personal favorite) The Death of Stalin did the same thing.

I am adding The Hollow Crown to my list. Looks fantastic and I love Sophie Okonedo. Thanks for the tip! (I have one for you about perry/pear cider which I'll put in the appropriate thread.)

 

Also, The Death of Stalin was freaking hilarious. Jason Isaacs as Zhukov was amazing, so brilliant to play him as a Yorkshireman. 

 

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1 hour ago, laylalex said:

I am adding The Hollow Crown to my list. Looks fantastic and I love Sophie Okonedo. Thanks for the tip! (I have one for you about perry/pear cider which I'll put in the appropriate thread.)

 

Also, The Death of Stalin was freaking hilarious. Jason Isaacs as Zhukov was amazing, so brilliant to play him as a Yorkshireman. 

 

Oh yes, he is great in that! My appreciation for Steve Buscemi didn't disappoint in this either, and he plays well against Simon Beale's scheming. 

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7 hours ago, yuna628 said:

They have done this before. Did you ever see The Hollow Crown? Sophie Okonedo was fierce as Queen Margaret in part two. I'm always one for historical accuracy as I said before though, but there are productions that tend to focus just on acting chops alone.

It was very good, but I'm always there for anything with Tilda Swinton. Iannucci's other film (and personal favorite) The Death of Stalin did the same thing.

Are we ready for a BAME Hitler?

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On 11/2/2020 at 2:28 PM, Boiler said:

Are we ready for a BAME Hitler?

I was trying to remember who played Hitler recently who was non-white, because I recall seeing a movie where that was the case. It was Taika Waititi in Jojo Rabbit -- he's half-Maori, I believe.

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7 minutes ago, laylalex said:

I was trying to remember who played Hitler recently who was non-white, because I recall seeing a movie where that was the case. It was Taika Waititi in Jojo Rabbit -- he's half-Maori, I believe.

And a Kiwi so how could he be BAME

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Just now, Boiler said:

And a Kiwi so how could he be BAME

Oh, I wasn't saying BAME, I was saying "non-white." Which isn't exactly what you were saying there (obviously BAME ≠ Maori) but (1) it's sort of in the same vein and (2) I knew there was someone who played Hitler who wasn't white.

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Update from Gal Gadot on the "controversy": https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55409187

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"First of all if you want to be true to the facts then Cleopatra was Macedonian," the Wonder Woman actress told BBC Arabic's Sam Asi.

"We were looking for a Macedonian actress that could fit Cleopatra. She wasn't there, and I was very passionate about Cleopatra."

 

I am impressed that they looked for a Macedonian actress!

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I am impressed with Gail.

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It wasn't that long ago that casting a "black" stormtrooper in the force awakens was derided as political correctness run amok. 

 

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2014/1201/A-black-storm-trooper-Star-Wars-awakens-forceful-debate-about-race

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So what would happen if say there is a film about Obama and they have a Chinese actor in the lead role.

 

Would Progressives be jumping up and down in joy about the Diversity?

 

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4 hours ago, laylalex said:

Update from Gal Gadot on the "controversy": https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-55409187

I am impressed that they looked for a Macedonian actress!

I don't think they looked hard enough as there are plenty of beautiful actresses that fit the bill.

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

So what would happen if say there is a film about Obama and they have a Chinese actor in the lead role.

 

Would Progressives be jumping up and down in joy about the Diversity?

 

There is a film about Obama with a Chinese actor?

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2 hours ago, Boiler said:

So what would happen if say there is a film about Obama and they have a Chinese actor in the lead role.

 

Would Progressives be jumping up and down in joy about the Diversity?

 

Did you know there is a Chinese actor that is an Obama impersonator? Think he got popular some years ago and wanted to make it big.. in China at least.

 

Fred Armisen routinely impersonated Obama. Don't think many complained (there were some) but there were plenty of perfectly fine African American actors that could do the job.

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17 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Fred Armisen routinely impersonated Obama. Don't think many complained (there were some) but there were plenty of perfectly fine African American actors that could do the job.

And Armisen is part Korean as well. Not Chinese, obviously, but Asian.

32 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I don't think they looked hard enough as there are plenty of beautiful actresses that fit the bill.

I had wondered if they thought being an excellent actress was important. Then I remembered the final casting decision.  

2 hours ago, Boiler said:

I am impressed with Gail.

It's Gal.

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37 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I don't think they looked hard enough as there are plenty of beautiful actresses that fit the bill.

and they have one.