Work is going to terminate me as my green card has expired, I am removing conditions

[mindthegap 2,611]

  On 10/17/2020 at 6:35 PM, Justkeepswimming said:

I don't have another government issued photo ID other than that though and I'm guessing they want one on file as I work with kids 

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It doesn’t matter what THEY want. It doesn’t matter what documents THEY demand. 
The laws and procedures are very clear - as are the sections regarding discrimination.

Yes, it is entirely normal that US citizens have no clue about this stuff. Yes it is entirely normal that someone thinks your permanent resident status expires when the card does (it doesn’t - the card is proof of status, not the stylus itself)

As above, send some links to HR to get this dealt with.

 

 

Also, once your receipt arrives you should be able to go get a state ID with it. 

 

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[Justkeepswimming 12]

  On 10/17/2020 at 6:49 PM, mindthegap said:

It doesn’t matter what THEY want. It doesn’t matter what documents THEY demand. 
The laws and procedures are very clear - as are the sections regarding discrimination.

Yes, it is entirely normal that US citizens have no clue about this stuff. Yes it is entirely normal that someone thinks your permanent resident status expires when the card does (it doesn’t - the card is proof of status, not the stylus itself)

As above, send some links to HR to get this dealt with.

 

 

Also, once your receipt arrives you should be able to go get a state ID with it. 

 

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So they can't demand to see photo ID from me because I've already shown my green card when I was hired? They said it is required for my employee file which DHS can expect. 

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[Ayrton 966]

  On 10/17/2020 at 7:32 PM, Justkeepswimming said:

So they can't demand to see photo ID from me because I've already shown my green card when I was hired? They said it is required for my employee file which DHS can expect. 

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Yes. It's illegal. Read the anti-discrimination notice on top of the form I-9. 

 

There's a number you can call and say what's happening and they will call your job and explain how the law works and they can't do that. I don't remember what the number is, but there's an old post here on vj explaining how it solved the issue.

[Justkeepswimming 12]

I spoke to my employer and she said regardless of if my green card is about to expire, I need to show one form of US government issued photo ID which is not expired to go on my employee file. I explained I've already verified who I am at time of hire and I had fbi clearances done etc. She said it has nothing to do with immigration now and she knows I am legal as she has 'looked it up' , she just wants to see an unexpired photo ID which I said I don't have and I cannot get! She said it's required to remain hired, so yeah this is what I'm dealing with. All I have photo ID is my student ID which they won't accept as it's not government issued and my home country passport which again, they won't accept as it's not US. She's saying it isn't her it's required in PA. 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

  On 10/18/2020 at 10:32 AM, Justkeepswimming said:

I spoke to my employer and she said regardless of if my green card is about to expire, I need to show one form of US government issued photo ID which is not expired to go on my employee file. I explained I've already verified who I am at time of hire and I had fbi clearances done etc. She said it has nothing to do with immigration now and she knows I am legal as she has 'looked it up' , she just wants to see an unexpired photo ID which I said I don't have and I cannot get! She said it's required to remain hired, so yeah this is what I'm dealing with. All I have photo ID is my student ID which they won't accept as it's not government issued and my home country passport which again, they won't accept as it's not US. She's saying it isn't her it's required in PA. 

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Your passport is a government issued ID. Your HR is being ridiculous 

[Justkeepswimming 12]

  On 10/18/2020 at 1:51 PM, Orangesapples said:

Your passport is a government issued ID. Your HR is being ridiculous 

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I know right? I love my job too, this situation is killing me 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

  On 10/18/2020 at 2:14 PM, Justkeepswimming said:

I know right? I love my job too, this situation is killing me 

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Why don't you drop the words "discrimination based on the national origin" and see if that scares them? 

 

Why were you refused a state ID? 

[Justkeepswimming 12]

  On 10/18/2020 at 2:31 PM, Orangesapples said:

Why don't you drop the words "discrimination based on the national origin" and see if that scares them? 

 

Why were you refused a state ID? 

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Because they said my green card couldn't be used as ID to get the state ID because it expires in less than 6 months. 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

  On 10/18/2020 at 2:37 PM, Justkeepswimming said:

Because they said my green card couldn't be used as ID to get the state ID because it expires in less than 6 months. 

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I'm sorry that you have to deal with all of this stupidity. 

[sweetadams 138]

  On 10/18/2020 at 2:37 PM, Justkeepswimming said:

Because they said my green card couldn't be used as ID to get the state ID because it expires in less than 6 months. 

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You are indeed dealing with an HR that is beyond reasonable. At least they should allow you since you are legal and give you time to get a "US govt issued ID" whatever that means. I believe your foreign passport was accepted by the USCIS to issue you a temporary Green Card. Aren't they all connected to the green card? Except there is something else going on, this shouldn't be a case in the first place. 

I understand you love your job and getting another job might be difficult at this time, but if you can IMO you should consider finding similar job when you get your permanent green card. It doesn't seems like this place is an e employee friendly work environment. 

 

[Orangesapples 1,954]

  On 10/18/2020 at 3:21 PM, sweetadams said:

You are indeed dealing with an HR that is beyond reasonable. At least they should allow you since you are legal and give you time to get a "US govt issued ID" whatever that means. I believe your foreign passport was accepted by the USCIS to issue you a temporary Green Card. Aren't they all connected to the green card? Except there is something else going on, this shouldn't be a case in the first place. 

I understand you love your job and getting another job might be difficult at this time, but if you can IMO you should consider finding similar job when you get your permanent green card. It doesn't seems like this place is an e employee friendly work environment. 

 

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It depends. Maybe the HR people are insufferable (it looks like they are) but the boss and the coworkers are nice. I'd definitely use the discrimination card because that might shut them up. 

[Justkeepswimming 12]

  On 10/18/2020 at 5:35 PM, Orangesapples said:

It depends. Maybe the HR people are insufferable (it looks like they are) but the boss and the coworkers are nice. I'd definitely use the discrimination card because that might shut the m up. 

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I'm going to speak to my manager tomorrow and see what can we done, if anything. They are a small company I think they don't understand much about this. I also read that PA is a state where employers can terminate employees no questions asked. It sucks because it's a really great job and great pay. I'm trying to stay positive. I will update tomorrow on what they say. 

[Lemonslice 5,085]

  On 10/18/2020 at 10:32 AM, Justkeepswimming said:

I spoke to my employer and she said regardless of if my green card is about to expire, I need to show one form of US government issued photo ID which is not expired to go on my employee file. I explained I've already verified who I am at time of hire and I had fbi clearances done etc. She said it has nothing to do with immigration now and she knows I am legal as she has 'looked it up' , she just wants to see an unexpired photo ID which I said I don't have and I cannot get! She said it's required to remain hired, so yeah this is what I'm dealing with. All I have photo ID is my student ID which they won't accept as it's not government issued and my home country passport which again, they won't accept as it's not US. She's saying it isn't her it's required in PA. 

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Ssn cards do not expire.

 

Don't you have a driver's licence?

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[Orangesapples 1,954]

  On 10/18/2020 at 7:57 PM, Justkeepswimming said:

I'm going to speak to my manager tomorrow and see what can we done, if anything. They are a small company I think they don't understand much about this. I also read that PA is a state where employers can terminate employees no questions asked. It sucks because it's a really great job and great pay. I'm trying to stay positive. I will update tomorrow on what they say. 

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Almost all states have at will employment and they can fire you for no reason. However, it's illegal for them to fire for certain reasons, such as on the basis of your national origin, that's true in the all states. And they have already made it clear why they would terminate you, if you have it writing, even better. So they can't just claim no reason anymore. 

[Justkeepswimming 12]

  On 10/18/2020 at 8:00 PM, Lemonslice said:

Ssn cards do not expire.

 

Don't you have a driver's licence?

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I don't, im a really nervous driver it took me years to get my license in my home country. 

Yeah I have my SSN but it's not photo ID. 

  On 10/18/2020 at 8:49 PM, Orangesapples said:

Almost all states have at will employment and they can fire you for no reason. However, it's illegal for them to fire for certain reasons, such as on the basis of your national origin, that's true in the all states. And they have already made it clear why they would terminate you, if you have it writing, even better. So they can't just claim no reason anymore. 

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This is true!!!