FBI uncovers armed militia plot to abduct Michigan Gov. Whitmer

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

24 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

Yes I am serious, the president's tweets are a huge liability for this country.

Are you saying the rioters in Portland are connected to the plot to kidnap the Governor of Michigan?

No, I am saying antifa thugs are the one behind the plot to kidnap her.  And they are NOT pro-Trump.

 

This plot had NOTHING to do with Trump, no matter how you struggle to connect the two.

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11 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

 

Well.. not a fan of Trump. Looking more like a libertarian type anarchist. Hard to tell what he thinks of power if he gets it.

Sounds more like a Lincoln Project neocon type.

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9 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

No, I am saying antifa thugs are the one behind the plot to kidnap her.  And they are NOT pro-Trump.

 

This plot had NOTHING to do with Trump, no matter how you struggle to connect the two.

Some of these people in these groups were pro-Trump supporters, pro-confederate, pro-neo-nazi, pro-race war, pro-end the government-set-up-our own. Some do appear to be anarchists that were simply in it because they hated any and all forms of government. They may have different motivations but they had a common goal. Right wing terrorists have always had an anti-government and anti-police message. It's merely about taking out one power structure and setting themselves up an imaginary utopia where they are the king/government. I have dear friends in MI LE and this is not surprising one bit. The rhetoric is ramped up, and some people on both sides of the spectrum are happy enough to align if it serves a specific goal of civil war.

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10 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

No, I am saying antifa thugs are the one behind the plot to kidnap her.  And they are NOT pro-Trump.

 

This plot had NOTHING to do with Trump, no matter how you struggle to connect the two.

Why source of data are you using?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

Some of these people in these groups were pro-Trump supporters, pro-confederate, pro-neo-nazi, pro-race war, pro-end the government-set-up-our own. Some do appear to be anarchists that were simply in it because they hated any and all forms of government. They may have different motivations but they had a common goal. Right wing terrorists have always had an anti-government and anti-police message. It's merely about taking out one power structure and setting themselves up an imaginary utopia where they are the king/government. I have dear friends in MI LE and this is not surprising one bit. The rhetoric is ramped up, and some people on both sides of the spectrum are happy enough to align if it serves a specific goal of civil war.

You seem to know a lot about the personal beliefs of these 13 arrestees, how is that?  The only one I have seen mentioned in this thread, with video proof, is anti-Trump.  In the past few months, most of what I have seen is a group is either pro-Trump and is NOT antifa or BLM, or they are anti-Trump and either antifa or BLM.  

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13 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

You seem to know a lot about the personal beliefs of these 13 arrestees, how is that?  The only one I have seen mentioned in this thread, with video proof, is anti-Trump.  In the past few months, most of what I have seen is a group is either pro-Trump and is NOT antifa or BLM, or they are anti-Trump and either antifa or BLM.  

A gal can have her sources, can't she? 😉

 

Also, they arrested another one in Baltimore today. Not surprised.

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7 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

A gal can have her sources, can't she? 😉

 

Also, they arrested another one in Baltimore today. Not surprised.

Or just make things up because that's what she believes to be true.  It's human nature, I reckon.

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4 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Or just make things up because that's what she believes to be true.  It's human nature, I reckon.

I'm not lying, but you do you man.

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3 hours ago, yuna628 said:

Some of these people in these groups were pro-Trump supporters, pro-confederate, pro-neo-nazi, pro-race war, pro-end the government-set-up-our own. Some do appear to be anarchists that were simply in it because they hated any and all forms of government. 

Can you list, preferably by name, whom among the Whtimer plot arrestees are pro-Trump or any of the other pros you listed above?

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1 minute ago, Voice of Reason said:

Can you list, preferably by name, whom among the Whtimer plot arrestees are pro-Trump or any of the other pros you listed above?

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2 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

You seem to know a lot about the personal beliefs of these 13 arrestees, how is that?  The only one I have seen mentioned in this thread, with video proof, is anti-Trump.  In the past few months, most of what I have seen is a group is either pro-Trump and is NOT antifa or BLM, or they are anti-Trump and either antifa or BLM.  

You don't have a connection between antifa and the men who were arrested. Some might say that idea was made up.

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4 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

You don't have a connection between antifa and the men who were arrested. Some might say that idea was made up.

I agree.

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3 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

You don't have a connection between antifa and the men who were arrested. Some might say that idea was made up.

well Antifa is an idea anyway

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1 hour ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

well Antifa is an idea anyway

But for some reason the Antifa idea is OK with the Left, but the ideas these idiots had was bad.  I vote for all of them being bad.

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1 minute ago, Dashinka said:

But for some reason the Antifa idea is OK with the Left, but the ideas these idiots had was bad.  I vote for all of them being bad.

What is the last time a antifascist group in the US consipred to overthrow a government by kidnapping a public official?