President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump test positive for Covid-19

[Steeleballz 7,550]

12 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

McCain served.  Good on him.  McCain screwed up during his service, and was a much disliked leader.  Giving out A-15s to his troops for philandering around while he did it himself.  Catching a ship on fire. Talk to some people who served with him, and you'll find out more than the msm wants you to know, I assure you.

 

      You don't have to like people personally, but I do think Trump's disrespect towards people like McCain and Mattis are going to cost him.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

12 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

      You don't have to like people personally, but I do think Trump's disrespect towards people like McCain and Mattis are going to cost him.

They said that in 2016, particularly of McCain, how'd that turn out? No one cares about Mattis.

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[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, Burnt Reynolds said:

They said that in 2016, particularly McCain. No one cares about Mattis.

 

   You might not, but some people do. It becomes apparent once your horizon expands outside of the echo chamber a little.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 minute ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   You might not, but some people do. It becomes apparent once your horizon expands outside of the echo chamber a little.

No, no one does. The horizon of neocons as discussed before is irrelevant. If they weren't, the McCain stuff would've been consequential. History has a way of proving wrong those who are stuck in their own bubbles. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

18 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

      You don't have to like people personally, but I do think Trump's disrespect towards people like McCain and Mattis are going to cost him.

For me, it's not personal at all, as I never met the guy.  But his actual military service history is less than stellar, if one leaves the POW portion out.  I don't have much tolerance for toxic leaders.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, Voice of Reason said:

For me, it's not personal at all, as I never met the guy.  But his actual military service history is less than stellar, if one leaves the POW portion out.  I don't have much tolerance for toxic leaders.

 

  Trump excepted, I guess?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

Just now, Steeleballz said:

 

  Trump excepted, I guess?

No, there is a lot I don't like about him.  That's why I didn't vote for him in 2016.  

 

But he's a LOT better than the current other option.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

14 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

No, there is a lot I don't like about him.  That's why I didn't vote for him in 2016.  

 

But he's a LOT better than the current other option.

So you.. coped with your loss and judged someone according to a reasonable metric of success/failure?

 

I hear that's Canadian logic.

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[Steeleballz 7,550]

5 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

So you.. coped with your loss and judged someone according to a reasonable metric of success/failure?

 

I hear that's Canadian logic.

 

    Good to hear you've heard about logic. Next step would be to try using it.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

So you.. coped with your loss and judged someone according to a reasonable metric of success/failure?

 

I hear that's Canadian logic.

Eh!

 

Don't get upset, some people just can't debate as logically as you can, and they get frustrated.

 

 

58 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Good to hear you've heard about logic. Next step would be to try using it.

Dude, he's about 10X as logical as you are most days.  Perhaps you should step up YOUR game?

Edited October 12, 2020 by Voice of Reason

[Steeleballz 7,550]

15 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Dude, he's about 10X as logical as you are most days.  Perhaps you should step up YOUR game?

 

    I'm glad you appreciate him, you know, living in the same echo chamber and all you should. Your passionate attempt to defend him and his critical 10X thinking skills is not necessary. He is not using logic here, except to bring up it's use as a trolling attempt.

 

   

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

7 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    I'm glad you appreciate him, you know, living in the same echo chamber and all you should. Your passionate attempt to defend him and his critical 10X thinking skills is not necessary. He is not using logic here, except to bring up it's use as a trolling attempt.

 

   

Are you daft?  He lives in Canada.  I live in Florida.  That's like... more than two states apart!!

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

21 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Are you daft?  He lives in Canada.  I live in Florida.  That's like... more than two states apart!!

Nope, you live in Canada now. We're in the same echo chamber! You know, the echo chamber of election data. 

 

People getting rolled in debates and instantly jumping to personal attacks (and then getting rolled on a personal attack) isn't anything new, there's a distinct problem with debate some have due to sitting in their own echo chambers, which is why they wilt like that when challenged. 

 

So.. back to McCain, I was hoping he'd have stuck around a while, because people were getting fed up of him. I was betting on him changing parties or going the way of Jeff Flake as his little Russiagate overthrow attempt failed and then got exposed.

Edited October 12, 2020 by Burnt Reynolds

[Steeleballz 7,550]

48 minutes ago, Voice of Reason said:

Are you daft?  He lives in Canada.  I live in Florida.  That's like... more than two states apart!!

 

     So back to the logic, in what way would someone in Canada be affected by Trumps decisions on a day to day basis more than someone like you would be?

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

3 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

     So back to the logic, in what way would someone in Canada be affected by Trumps decisions on a day to day basis more than someone like you would be?

While I was quite amused by trying to concoct this fictional narrative of "being affected" by Trump decisions on a "day to day basis".. it was the basic adversity in life of coping with losing elections that was both the "logic" and meaning of what was said, as described by the person who posted it:

 

7 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

New? 

 

You can tell me the gaslighting I'm doing now, like you I didn't vote for the winner in the last election. The difference therein is how we cope with it. 

 

 

5 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

5 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

    And presumably there would be a difference in how you cope with it. You are not subject to the consequences of Trump's petulant, abrasive, and malignant behavior and decision making on a day to day basis.

The problem is, I've voted in 5 Presidential elections before, this one coming up when I get my absentee being my 6th. I've voted for someone who "won" the election 0 times. So pretending my ability to cope with losing elections has anything to do with Canada is, well, the kind of stuff I'm used to seeing from the left lately. Not something they'd have said when I moved to Canada. The key point that shouldn't be missed, or whittled away with ad hominem, is coping with losing elections is a pretty basic part of life. The inability of some to cope with losing 2016 speaks to some serious problems, I think befitting of the chaos that's happened very rapidly.

 

 

But it was a good try.