President Donald Trump and first lady Melania Trump test positive for Covid-19

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5 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Yes, but you are supporting the Lincoln Project that has a stated goal of returning the Dems to power and putting the GOP in their proper place as secondary in Congress with a few red districts.  If you cannot see the shift the Dems are effecting, and the fact that they have nominated a spineless career/corrupt Washington insider that will sign anything a Democrat controlled Congress will send him, you are less informed than I thought.  Considering you main beef with President Trump is his superficial tweeting, it is not surprising.

You mentioned mental capacity, tweetstorms are one indication of that.  Suddenly it’s a “main beef” 😂

 

No, add that to insulting troops and those who serve our country, mishandling the COV pandemic, dodging taxes, encouraging domestic terrorism, encouraging covid spread, mingling with felons and pedophiles, fostering relationships with despots, turning our backs to our allies, engaging in pointless trade wars that have ballooned our trade deficits, and what’s left?  He sure built a wall and other countries sure paid for it.  The whole world travel-banned us.  He forgot to tell us, and you, that we would be locked inside.

He touted US manufacturing, while producing his own products overseas.  He ballooned the deficit with massive tax cuts yet the GDP through 2019 expanded at the same rate it expanded since 2010.  
Failure doesn’t get rewarded here, not when under the opponent’s watch we achieved energy independence and the sitting president crushed that by giving hj’s to Saudi princes.  You, and others like you say it’s better but you have not one fact, not one single iota of data to show it.  So you’re babbling, grasping at any little detail to spin this discussion into a neat set of talking points, where you can slot whatever is said under this hated group or that hated group and it is not working.  Bring data or go home 😂

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4 hours ago, Nitas_man said:

You mentioned mental capacity, tweetstorms are one indication of that.  Suddenly it’s a “main beef” 😂

 

No, add that to insulting troops and those who serve our country, mishandling the COV pandemic, dodging taxes, encouraging domestic terrorism, encouraging covid spread, mingling with felons and pedophiles, fostering relationships with despots, turning our backs to our allies, engaging in pointless trade wars that have ballooned our trade deficits, and what’s left?  He sure built a wall and other countries sure paid for it.  The whole world travel-banned us.  He forgot to tell us, and you, that we would be locked inside.

He touted US manufacturing, while producing his own products overseas.  He ballooned the deficit with massive tax cuts yet the GDP through 2019 expanded at the same rate it expanded since 2010.  
Failure doesn’t get rewarded here, not when under the opponent’s watch we achieved energy independence and the sitting president crushed that by giving hj’s to Saudi princes.  You, and others like you say it’s better but you have not one fact, not one single iota of data to show it.  So you’re babbling, grasping at any little detail to spin this discussion into a neat set of talking points, where you can slot whatever is said under this hated group or that hated group and it is not working.  Bring data or go home 😂

So all the Left/MSM talking points.  I would get into refuting those items, but you would rather believe anonymous sources than people who actually don’t mind being known, and the whole tax thing is just trolling by the Left.  As I have said many times, I don’t see the need to follow a tradition started by a disgraced GOP President as to releasing taxes, I would much rather see a list of proposed judges, something that really matter in the long run.  Btw, I thought it was both President Bushs that favored handing out hjs to the Saudi royal family.

 

As to the ballooning deficit, I agree with you on that one, but unfortunately both sides in Washington are now guilty of that, and is something that began way before Trump was elected.  There are few elected officials today that pay the deficit much attention which is sad, and certainly will not change under Biden with his GND and Medicaid for all plans.

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3 hours ago, Dashinka said:

So all the Left/MSM talking points.  I would get into refuting those items, but you would rather believe anonymous sources than people who actually don’t mind being known, and the whole tax thing is just trolling by the Left.  As I have said many times, I don’t see the need to follow a tradition started by a disgraced GOP President as to releasing taxes, I would much rather see a list of proposed judges, something that really matter in the long run.  Btw, I thought it was both President Bushs that favored handing out hjs to the Saudi royal family.

 

As to the ballooning deficit, I agree with you on that one, but unfortunately both sides in Washington are now guilty of that, and is something that began way before Trump was elected.  There are few elected officials today that pay the deficit much attention which is sad, and certainly will not change under Biden with his GND and Medicaid for all plans.

Talking points?  No, that’s just data.  Easily accessed, and you are free to challenge it. Unfortunately since you cannot - default kicks in.  “Left”, “MSM”, etc.  This is about business and the economy and  If Trump made America great, where’s the numbers?  Trade?  GDP?  Deficit?  Never showed up.  Which makes one of us a walking set of “talking points”.  What Trump said is America was going to be lean and mean and efficient and run like a business.  He ran it like one of his businesses 😂

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1 minute ago, Nitas_man said:

Talking points?  No, that’s just data.  Easily accessed, and you are free to challenge it. Unfortunately since you cannot - default kicks in.  “Left”, “MSM”, etc.  This is about business and the economy and  If Trump made America great, where’s the numbers?  Trade?  GDP?  Never showed up.  Which makes one of us a walking set of “talking points”

Yeah, the one about denigrating the troops seems shaky, but believe what you want.  Btw, I noticed you have yet to explain why 56% of Americans feel they are better off in the Gallup Poll, cherry-picking?

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4 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Yeah, the one about denigrating the troops seems shaky, but believe what you want.

He started it on TV popping off about John McCain.  It isn’t a “rumor” and it’s going to cost him Arizona.  We heard him and saw him saying it.

Dismissing Beau Biden’s service is typical.  He has no respect for our uniformed troops.  None.  If he had respect for anyone he’d respect the people sworn to shield him by at a minimum protecting them and their families from covid

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He "popped off" about McCain in 2015 and 16 (remember the quotes you guys like to parade around conflating this for attacking service members?) and still won Arizona. But I understand your frustration. 

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5 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

He "popped off" about McCain in 2015 and 16 (remember the quotes you guys like to parade around conflating this for attacking service members?) and still won Arizona. But I understand your frustration. 

Who are “you guys” sport?  We voted for his sorry @&&.  Lol

Not again though.  I believe McSally is also history and if Arizona elects a fighter / shuttle pilot good for them.  No talking point is going to define that man as a “socialist” or “communist” and doing so dishonors the uniform he signed up and wore

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16 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

He started it on TV popping off about John McCain.  It isn’t a “rumor” and it’s going to cost him Arizona.  We heard him and saw him saying it.

Dismissing Beau Biden’s service is typical.  He has no respect for our uniformed troops.  None.  If he had respect for anyone he’d respect the people sworn to shield him by at a minimum protecting them and their families from covid

Yeah, McCain was above criticism right?  I cannot believe I actually voted for that idiot back in 2008.

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14 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Yeah, McCain was above criticism right?  I cannot believe I actually voted for that idiot back in 2008.

So did I.  Win some lose some, but the loss certainly didn’t usher in uncontrolled socialism 😂
Truth is Obama didnt do a bad job.  We prospered 👍

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26 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

Yeah, McCain was above criticism right?  I cannot believe I actually voted for that idiot back in 2008.

Parties have a way of turning 💩 into gold, and the media doesn't help any. I met that guy once, I didn't think much of it beyond the story I've told about shaking the hand of someone from his entourage (along with him but was less eventful). But when I look back on it, the way he used his service as some sort of celebrity status really puts it in perspective.. the geniuses using identity politics to try and put his pathetic decision making as something beyond criticism (which used to be Republicans and is now comically Democrats) are equally trash. 

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26 minutes ago, Nitas_man said:

So did I.  Win some lose some, but the loss certainly didn’t usher in uncontrolled socialism 😂
Truth is Obama didnt do a bad job.  We prospered 👍

And we have even prospered more under Trump.  I agree, we did not move into unfettered socialism under Obama, but we moved closer, and times have now changed within the Democrat Party.  If you think their ideological position is the same now as in 2008 or 2012 you may be missing something, and the whole war on the rich that Biden is waging is such a phony play, anyone that understands taxes knows that Biden and the Dems will raise taxes on everyone to pay for their new ideas, and corporate money will be expatriated as fast as possible.  However it sounds nice to the Gruberites.

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7 minutes ago, Dashinka said:

And we have even prospered more under Trump.  I agree, we did not move into unfettered socialism under Obama, but we moved closer, and times have now changed within the Democrat Party.  If you think their ideological position is the same now as in 2008 or 2012 you may be missing something, and the whole war on the rich that Biden is waging is such a phony play, anyone that understands taxes knows that Biden and the Dems will raise taxes on everyone to pay for their new ideas, and corporate money will be expatriated as fast as possible.  However it sounds nice to the Gruberites.

Please bring the economic numbers and show us.

Economy was growing at the same rate before Trump’s tax cuts.  I posted the GDP charts.  How come?  
They started measuring unemployment back in the 40’s or 50’s.  Ours is at a record.  The prosperity you are touting exists only in speeches and posts about it.

I mean could we have even kept the trade deficit the same?  Why would it have increased?  That’s all Trump.  I’m realizing something - you dont even follow or watch the actual data 😂😂😂😂😂  you just believe the speeches about it 😂😂😂😂😂
 

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4 hours ago, Dashinka said:

Yeah, McCain was above criticism right?  I cannot believe I actually voted for that idiot back in 2008.

McCain served.  Good on him.  McCain screwed up during his service, and was a much disliked leader.  Giving out A-15s to his troops for philandering around while he did it himself.  Catching a ship on fire. Talk to some people who served with him, and you'll find out more than the msm wants you to know, I assure you.

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4 hours ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

He "popped off" about McCain in 2015 and 16 (remember the quotes you guys like to parade around conflating this for attacking service members?) and still won Arizona. But I understand your frustration. 

How is Arizona going these days?

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Just now, CanAm1980 said:

How is Arizona going these days?