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36 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

 

  His businesses have lost billions. He is as entitled to claim those losses as anyone else. If the IRS finds that some of the other errata (ie. consulting fees paid to his daughter) was illegal, then it will end up in court at some point in the future, but not while he is president.

 

  Whether you love him or hate him (or somewhere in between), at this point, I don't think any specific findings would change anyone's opinion of him. People will rationalize it one way or the other.

I've said all along that the reason he doesn't want to release his returns is because he didn't want the public to know how small his actual net worth was.  Not that his CPAs have been doing anything illegal.  But he loses face if we know how much he has been losing.

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The Biden campaign is quick: Selling two bumper stickers for $7.50 "I paid more income taxes than Trump"

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/518523-biden-campaign-sells-i-paid-more-income-taxes-than-trump-stickers

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3 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Thats hillaryous

Such poetic justice if the Clinton Foundation were to be audited...

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3 hours ago, TBoneTX said:

Such poetic justice if the Clinton Foundation were to be audited...

Dont hold your breath 

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6 hours ago, CanAm1980 said:

The Biden campaign is quick: Selling two bumper stickers for $7.50 "I paid more income taxes than Trump"

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/518523-biden-campaign-sells-i-paid-more-income-taxes-than-trump-stickers

Hmm, quick, or collusion with the NYTs?

 

In other news, Trump colluded with the Russians in 2016.

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9 hours ago, Voice of Reason said:

I've said all along that the reason he doesn't want to release his returns is because he didn't want the public to know how small his actual net worth was.  Not that his CPAs have been doing anything illegal.  But he loses face if we know how much he has been losing.

I can totally see this.

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The whole releasing tax returns is just a political gimmick, Trump proved that in 2016.  I would rather see something more substantial released to understand how a President will govern, something like a list of potential SCOTUS nominees.

 

This story is just a rehash of the Harry Reid baseless accusation made against Mit Romney in 2012.  When the Dems or their media allies make an accusation, there is no need to back it up with evidence, and it forces a defensive posture on the person being accused.  I accuse Joe Biden of being a pedophile based on all the pictures of him fondling and sniffing young girls.  

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I wonder if I obtained someones Tax Returns illegally and released them to the world, if I would be charged with a crime?

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12 hours ago, Dashinka said:

The whole releasing tax returns is just a political gimmick, Trump proved that in 2016.  I would rather see something more substantial released to understand how a President will govern, something like a list of potential SCOTUS nominees.

 

This story is just a rehash of the Harry Reid baseless accusation made against Mit Romney in 2012.  When the Dems or their media allies make an accusation, there is no need to back it up with evidence, and it forces a defensive posture on the person being accused.  I accuse Joe Biden of being a pedophile based on all the pictures of him fondling and sniffing young girls.  

So you are saying the entire tax transcript leaked is fabricated? 

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6 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

I wonder if I obtained someones Tax Returns illegally and released them to the world, if I would be charged with a crime?

Only if you're Julian Assange.

 

6 minutes ago, CanAm1980 said:

So you are saying the entire tax transcript leaked is fabricated? 

You should hope so, because this is yet another illegal leak (this time of Trump's private information) that was ridiculously hyped for years and shows what? We were sold something all this time of a handful of things that the tax returns would reveal, is it a surprise that the delivery is a deuce?

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4 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Only if you're Julian Assange.

 

You should hope so, because this is yet another illegal leak (this time of Trump's private information) that was ridiculously hyped for years and shows what? We were sold something all this time of a handful of things that the tax returns would reveal, is it a surprise that the delivery is a deuce?

IT PROVES RUSSIAN COLLUSION DAMMIT!!!!!!  Now we can all sit back and watch Trump get impeached.  Oh wait...

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1 minute ago, Voice of Reason said:

IT PROVES RUSSIAN COLLUSION DAMMIT!!!!!!  Now we can all sit back and watch Trump get impeached.  Oh wait...

I'm sure we'll be getting a nice montage of all the Democrats talking up Russia in his tax returns, along with the other litany of supposedly emergent things that justified giving the finger to privacy laws. I know Pelosi pulled that at least a few times. The Democrats and their partner media can't think of any other strategy besides breaking laws and abusing power left and right all for a calculated slow drip diarrhea of anti-Trump stunts to perpetuate in the news cycle day after day.

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22 minutes ago, Burnt Reynolds said:

Only if you're Julian Assange.

 

You should hope so, because this is yet another illegal leak (this time of Trump's private information) that was ridiculously hyped for years and shows what? We were sold something all this time of a handful of things that the tax returns would reveal, is it a surprise that the delivery is a deuce?

Well, let's take this tact. Every president (and I believe major party candidate) since Eisenhower has released their tax returns, except for Nixon and we know how that turned out. You would have to say, outside of the required FEC disclosures, they are a defacto standard of financial transparency. ( I would like to independently audited  financial statements, but that is not current law)

If the transcripts are being bonafide, then we can have two debates: how did the transcripts become legal ?(90% chance it was a leak from Vance's office) and what do the numbers show us?

If the transcripts are not legit, it will be easy for Trump to discredit:release his 2016 and 2017 1040 pages (not even the entire return)

 

 

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