Instances of voting interference or fraud

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, laylalex said:

My husband grew up shooting with long guns. He enjoys shooting for sport and I have agreed I will allow a rifle in my home in a gun safe when he is eligible to buy one in this state. This was a massive concession I made -- it goes against very strong personal beliefs I hold. Personal beliefs -- I do not hold others to them. But he is very disturbed right now by some of the rhetoric he is hearing about "exercising Second Amendment rights." I grew up in America, he did not (obviously), and I am used to what is usually just hyperbolic ranting. He is worried enough that he is concerned about my safety just walking or driving around right now. I explained I'm fine, nothing's going to happen to me, but he's terrified of some lunatic deciding he's going to wave around a gun in pursuit of his "rights" and I'll get caught in the crossfire. Honestly, at one point today I thought he was going to punch a hole in the wall he was so angry at this thought. Note -- I do not live in an area with much gun violence,

 

His answer is not to insist I get a gun, which I would not do anyway. His answer is to let himself realize that this is the society we unfortunately live in right now, and to let the heat dim, not make it rise. He raised the other day for the first time in a while the idea of eventually moving back to the UK, which I am not keen on. But if he isn't comfortable here, I have to respect that, too. 

 

What I believe is that calling election officials on the phone and threatening to shoot them is not acceptable in a civil society. Period. I do not know why this is a controversial point of view.

 

   They are taking their cue's from Trump. All he had to do was ask for patience and say they are going to challenge the outcomes that they dispute at the appropriate time. That's all he had to do. 

 

  

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,386]

39 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  I don't mind that part. He can ask for recounts in every state and then sue every state after that until he's convinced. There are venues that exist for that.

 

  Just stop tweeting about fraud and stolen elections and "stop the counts". Those words are not going to change anything with regards to the election, and they are not going to help his case. All they are going to do is make people who are already upset liable to do all kinds of stupid things because they start believing the BS. 

Yup. Trumps outlandish comments and bizzare tweets, were probably his downfall 

[Dashinka 24,954]

8 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

    Trump is going to drag this out till the bitter end and, as always, ferment discord all the way. He's still tweeting that he won and the election was stolen. Just like with Covid, he doesn't care if people get hurt or die. It's always about him. 

So pretty much business as usual considering how the Dems did the same thing for the past four years.  

[Prizm123 1,086]

6 hours ago, Nature Boy 2.0 said:

Yup. Trumps outlandish comments and bizzare tweets, were probably his downfall 

thats just the tip of the iceberg. if he had actually implemented a coherent national strategy to contain covid, told people to wear masks, and made sure that front line workers in all states had the things they needed instead of yapping about hydroxychloroquine or musing about putting light into people or asking about using bleach in people, he wins in a landslide, regardless of the tweets and idiotic comments

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

 

 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

8 hours ago, laylalex said:

My husband grew up shooting with long guns. He enjoys shooting for sport and I have agreed I will allow a rifle in my home in a gun safe when he is eligible to buy one in this state. This was a massive concession I made -- it goes against very strong personal beliefs I hold. Personal beliefs -- I do not hold others to them. But he is very disturbed right now by some of the rhetoric he is hearing about "exercising Second Amendment rights." I grew up in America, he did not (obviously), and I am used to what is usually just hyperbolic ranting. He is worried enough that he is concerned about my safety just walking or driving around right now. I explained I'm fine, nothing's going to happen to me, but he's terrified of some lunatic deciding he's going to wave around a gun in pursuit of his "rights" and I'll get caught in the crossfire. Honestly, at one point today I thought he was going to punch a hole in the wall he was so angry at this thought. Note -- I do not live in an area with much gun violence,

 

His answer is not to insist I get a gun, which I would not do anyway. His answer is to let himself realize that this is the society we unfortunately live in right now, and to let the heat dim, not make it rise. He raised the other day for the first time in a while the idea of eventually moving back to the UK, which I am not keen on. But if he isn't comfortable here, I have to respect that, too. 

 

What I believe is that calling election officials on the phone and threatening to shoot them is not acceptable in a civil society. Period. I do not know why this is a controversial point of view.

A firearm in a gun safe in LA? What kind of monster are you? 

Edited November 9, 2020 by Cyberfx1024

[laylalex 7,300]

2 hours ago, Cyberfx1024 said:

A firearm in a gun safe in LA? What kind of monster are you? 

Because it is not meant for home protection. It is meant for sport. This wasn't even part of the compromise -- he was the one who proposed it. We are safe where we are, in a secure building. No one is "coming for us," there are no drive bys. These are our choices. I respect your choice to store weapons as you wish even if they aren't the same as mine.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

 

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A man who tried to run for mayor in Hawthorne is among two people charged in a voter fraud case in which thousands of fraudulent voter registration applications were allegedly submitted on behalf of homeless people, the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office announced Tuesday.

 

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Montenegro, 53, allegedly submitted more than 8,000 fraudulent voter registration applications between July and October, as well as allegedly falsifying names, addresses and signatures on nomination papers under penalty of perjury to run for mayor in Hawthorne.

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/pair-charged-with-voter-fraud-allegedly-submitted-thousands-of-fraudulent-applications-on-behalf-of-homeless-people/2464168/

 

Doesn't happen.